A month into the season, we need to start discussing Adam Jones

[weams]

He has to be hurt right? I heard/read so much that expected him to have his most productive season to date. We're going to be worse on defense with him on the DL, there's no debate, but if the team truly believes we can compete all year, he's gotta rest now and lean on the other guys to be productive

I know this probably won't happen, but...

It'd be interesting if Buck gave Jones two weeks to rest, to get himself feeling better physically and mentally.

During that time, Reimold and Kim would get more ABs. Rickard would play CF, and obviously Trumbo would still be in the mix.

I think this would be good for Jones (even if he didn't like the idea), and it would help to clarify our outfield picture moving forward.

I've heard if he was hurt, that he is now healed.

[weams]

He should be. His double plays are killer

Read this.

http://baltimore.orioles.mlb.com/stats/sortable.jsp?c_id=bal#sortColumn=gidp&extended=1&sectionType=sp&playerType=ALL&statType=hitting&season=2016&season_type=ALL&game_type='R'&elem=%5Bobject+Object%5D&tab_level=child&click_text=Sortable+Player+hitting&league_code='MLB'&page=1&ts=1462905363088

RK Player Pos IBB HBP SAC SF TB XBH GDP▼ GO AO GO_AO NP PA

1 Ripken, C SS 107 66 10 127 5168 1078 350 343 359 0.96 1824 12883

2 Robinson, B 3B 120 53 101 114 4270 818 297 0 0 - 0 11782

3 Murray, E 1B 135 15 2 77 3522 731 186 0 0 - 0 8053

4 Singleton, K OF 85 10 16 44 2274 436 174 0 0 - 0 6071

5 Powell, B 1B 131 28 24 59 2748 557 149 0 0 - 0 6912

6 * Markakis, N RF 40 33 4 45 2318 473 131 1648 1505 1.10 23090 5966

7 Dauer, R 2B 7 14 44 34 1312 239 128 0 0 - 0 4218

7 * Jones, A CF 14 78 5 37 2164 447 128 1460 1142 1.28 18171 5025

9 * Tejada, M SS 37 45 0 29 1381 279 113 944 764 1.24 11054 3135

10 Blair, P CF 19 21 99 46 2175 446 111 0 0 - 0 6192

11 Triandos, G C 39 13 22 26 1351 267 106 0 0 - 0 3612

12 May, L 1B 31 10 5 25 1239 237 104 0 0 - 0 3158

13 Robinson, F RF 60 58 1 32 1598 340 96 0 0 - 0 3492

14 Mora, M 3B 12 107 43 40 2073 422 95 1252 1447 0.87 20512 5388

15 Johnson, D 2B 41 22 20 33 1320 268 93 0 0 - 0 3929

16 Dempsey, R C 8 16 50 30 1272 256 88 0 0 - 0 4105

17 Bordick, M SS 3 27 45 28 1020 211 86 428 522 0.82 2663 2904

18 Adair, J 2B 24 9 17 18 940 176 85 0 0 - 0 2752

19 Palmeiro, R 1B 52 28 0 46 1958 434 84 249 343 0.73 4120 4328

20 DeCinces, D 3B 23 14 8 21 1248 282 83 0 0 - 0 3257

21 Belanger, M SS 21 42 153 45 1604 227 81 0 0 - 0 6545

22 Baines, H DH 42 2 1 16 1064 209 80 163 162 1.01 0 2415

23 Conine, J 1B 20 19 2 46 1197 247 74 736 899 0.82 7589 3005

24 Roberts, B 2B 25 12 47 48 2149 478 73 1371 1721 0.80 23530 5905

25 * Wieters, M C 21 9 1 30 1167 247 72 822 761 1.08 12137 3082

26 Devereaux, M CF 3 12 19 30 1281 264 71 0 0 - 0 3485

26 Gibbons, J RF 20 15 1 17 1263 290 71 752 915 0.82 10870 3035

28 Bumbry, A CF 30 21 43 30 1883 322 70 0 0 - 0 5516

28 Stephens, V SS 0 3 31 7 1681 317 70 0 0 - 0 4160

30 Etchebarren, A C 40 27 10 16 753 148 69 0 0 - 0 2400

31 * Hardy, J SS 11 9 17 19 1134 231 68 861 867 0.99 11726 3016

32 Roenicke, G OF 16 38 23 21 993 223 67 0 0 - 0 2634

33 Berardino, J 2B 0 8 26 0 952 202 66 0 0 - 0 2784

33 Surhoff, B LF 41 16 16 37 1661 334 66 577 663 0.87 3831 4043

35 Hoiles, C C 17 44 11 28 1318 275 65 0 0 - 0 3338

36 Ripken, B 2B 3 13 65 15 696 120 64 0 0 - 0 2461

37 Nieman, B OF 14 5 17 16 1010 201 63 0 0 - 0 2402

38 Sheets, L DH 20 16 2 17 849 167 62 0 0 - 0 2091

39 Milligan, R 1B 9 11 0 13 708 149 61 0 0 - 0 2048

40 McQuinn, G 1B 0 6 104 0 1892 409 60 0 0 - 0 4940

40 Moss, L C 1 4 17 0 641 110 60 0 0 - 0 1963

42 Laabs, C LF 0 10 33 0 1195 265 59 0 0 - 0 2988

43 Anderson, B RF 57 148 70 48 2698 602 58 363 499 0.73 2015 7464

43 Brandt, J CF 13 11 17 22 1140 236 58 0 0 - 0 3063

45 Segui, D 1B 19 7 9 13 636 120 56 179 160 1.12 2970 1865

46 Christman, M 3B 0 12 25 0 625 99 53 0 0 - 0 2016

46 Dillinger, B 3B 0 10 26 0 781 123 53 0 0 - 0 2211

48 Aparicio, L SS 6 10 45 20 1012 172 52 0 0 - 0 3216

48 Davis, T LF 14 4 8 14 640 86 52 0 0 - 0 1839

48 * Machado, M 3B 6 10 14 10 917 202 52 603 512 1.18 7777 2113

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[pastorfan]

Very interesting, thank you!

[srock]

Read this.

http://baltimore.orioles.mlb.com/stats/sortable.jsp?c_id=bal#sortColumn=gidp&extended=1?ionType=sp&playerType=ALL&statType=hitting&season=2016&season_type=ALL&game_type='R'&elem=%5Bobject+Object%5D&tab_level=child&click_text=Sortable+Player+hitting&league_code='MLB'&page=1&ts=1462905363088

RK Player Pos IBB HBP SAC SF TB XBH GDP▼ GO AO GO_AO NP PA

1 Ripken, C SS 107 66 10 127 5168 1078 350 343 359 0.96 1824 12883

2 Robinson, B 3B 120 53 101 114 4270 818 297 0 0 - 0 11782

3 Murray, E 1B 135 15 2 77 3522 731 186 0 0 - 0 8053

4 Singleton, K OF 85 10 16 44 2274 436 174 0 0 - 0 6071

5 Powell, B 1B 131 28 24 59 2748 557 149 0 0 - 0 6912

6 * Markakis, N RF 40 33 4 45 2318 473 131 1648 1505 1.10 23090 5966

7 Dauer, R 2B 7 14 44 34 1312 239 128 0 0 - 0 4218

7 * Jones, A CF 14 78 5 37 2164 447 128 1460 1142 1.28 18171 5025

9 * Tejada, M SS 37 45 0 29 1381 279 113 944 764 1.24 11054 3135

10 Blair, P CF 19 21 99 46 2175 446 111 0 0 - 0 6192

PA / GDP

36 Ripken

39 Robinson

43 Murray

34 Singleton

46 Powell

45 Markakis

32 Dauer

39 Jones

27 Tejada

Jones could be doing much worse. Average is 37.88 per plate appearance.

[Tx Oriole]

why in the world isn't he hitting 6th or lower in the lineup? would anyone disagree with this?

I have no opinion of this. I don't know if that would really make that much of a

difference.

[weams]

I have no opinion of this. I don't know if that would really make that much of a

difference.

Actually, it makes no difference. And Harv probably knows that.

[Aristotelian]

PA / GDP

36 Ripken

39 Robinson

43 Murray

34 Singleton

46 Powell

45 Markakis

32 Dauer

39 Jones

27 Tejada

Jones could be doing much worse. Average is 37.88 per plate appearance.

He is doing much worse this year. 13 PAs/DP. But I am guessing it is at least in part a sample size issue.

The thing is, to hit into a lot of double plays you need to be hitting the ball hard. As you can see from the list, plenty of good players hit into a lot of double plays.

[WEAVERMAN]

Adam Jones has a BABIP of .240, so there is some bad luck there but not a lot.

What's killing Jones is that he's among the top in the league in ground balls (56%).

He's a DP machine.

[OriolesMagic83]

I feel that WAR does not adequately include Mojo, and Adam Jones has a lot of Mojo.

[weams]

He's a DP machine.

Read my list.

[Crabcakes]

Read my list.

...trying no to stir things up ..... buuuuuuuuut, considering that past performance is not necessarily indicative of future results (read that on a stock management site somewhere) that list is relevant to what Jones is doing this season how?

This team has had 26 GIDP's, so far, and Jones has almost a third of them. Why worry about getting baserunner on in the top of the order if you're just going to keep putting Jones in there to wipe them out?

[Rene88]

My favorite Oriole but something is wrong. He needs to go on this DL if he is hurt. Take some time because right now he is not helping the team.

Borbon is prob not the answer though...

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[weams]

...trying no to stir things up ..... buuuuuuuuut, considering that past performance is not necessarily indicative of future results (read that on a stock management site somewhere) that list is relevant to what Jones is doing this season how?

This team has had 26 GIDP's, so far, and Jones has almost a third of them. Why worry about getting baserunner on in the top of the order if you're just going to keep putting Jones in there to wipe them out?

Yeah. No. Nice investment professional try though.

[weams]

lolol he destroyed that ball

The cover came off.

[weams]

My favorite Oriole but something is wrong. He needs to go on this DL if he is hurt. Take some time because right now he is not helping the team.

Borbon is prob not the answer though...

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Nothing is the answer. He's Adam. He'll work it out.