June 8th Vs. Toronto

[Palmer Esque]

Cmon Matt, aim center, your ball moves so much.

Man Luke really misplayed that. Tough bounce off the wall. He overpersued it.

[brvn52]

Jeeze. Walks will kill you. We just ruined a solid start by Liz and a bad start by Halladay. :cussing:

[Palmer Esque]

This bottom of the sixth is a prime example of why managing is so difficult. Really tough decision to make, but I still think putting Albers in was the smart move. Just did not work out today so far.

[RShack]

Luke giveth the lead, and Luke taketh the lead away...

[JTrea81]

The Jays are a scrappy team just like the O's. We all knew this one was going to be a fight. Somehow we are going to have to get more against Halladay...

Albers just didn't have it today. Let's get a couple more!

[VivianDarkbloom]

Not to harp on it, but I'm pinning this on Trembley. There are two conceivable reasons to lift Liz after 91 pitches, and 7 set down in a row.

(1) We have to protect the kid, if he relinquishes a lead his team just earned, it'll bust his confidence

(2) Our bullpen is good, let them do it

A BP stays good by not being overused. Liz is going to make screw-ups, you have to let him.

[RShack]

Has anybody seen AJ make a throw home that wasn't up the 3B line?

(Just curious.)

[brvn52]

Well we still have 3 innings to score. Unfortunately 2 or 3 of them are gonna be against Halladay and Ryan.

[baltimoriole]

Is Guthrie pitching? Just kidding. Even before Albers gave up 2 runs I thought it was a bad decision to get away from Liz. There was no reason to pull him after 5. Obviously a bad move by DT.

[EddieO's21]

Not to harp on it, but I'm pinning this on Trembley. There are two conceivable reasons to lift Liz after 91 pitches, and 7 set down in a row.

(1) We have to protect the kid, if he relinquishes a lead his team just earned, it'll bust his confidence

(2) Our bullpen is good, let them do it

A BP stays good by not being overused. Liz is going to make screw-ups, you have to let him.

He made the right decision, Albers pitched terrible

[AUOriole]

Bummer of an inning there. It's still not over yet.

Albers just had a rare bad inning. Let's pick him up!

Go O's!

[Palmer Esque]

Is Guthrie pitching? Just kidding. Even before Albers gave up 2 runs I thought it was a bad decision to get away from Liz. There was no reason to pull him after 5. Obviously a bad move by DT.

Thats not accurate,it just did not work out. He is young and threw 91 pitches. If this happens again, I bet he does the same things. IT was not a bad decision, sure Albers blew it, but based on his season, it was the right move.

[VivianDarkbloom]

He made the right decision' date=' Albers pitched terrible[/quote']

If Albers had had a 1-2-3 inning, I still would have called it a bad decision, in principle. Why was it the right decision?

[RShack]

Not to harp on it, but I'm pinning this on Trembley. There are two conceivable reasons to lift Liz after 91 pitches, and 7 set down in a row.

(1) We have to protect the kid, if he relinquishes a lead his team just earned, it'll bust his confidence

(2) Our bullpen is good, let them do it

A BP stays good by not being overused. Liz is going to make screw-ups, you have to let him.

My theory is that 99% of the time, if you're "pinning it" on anybody, then you're harping ;-)

It's completely impossible for DT to do or not-do practically anything without somebody not liking it.

(Not complaining about it: second-guessing the manager is perhaps the largest baseball tradition of all.)

[PaulFolk]

Is Guthrie pitching? Just kidding. Even before Albers gave up 2 runs I thought it was a bad decision to get away from Liz. There was no reason to pull him after 5. Obviously a bad move by DT.

It's not obvious at all. In fact, I think it was the right move. Liz had thrown 91 pitches and had gotten into a couple of stretches where he was all over the place. The ball was up too often. There was no need to further press your luck with him, especially since he got tired in the 6th last time. Let him leave after the 5th with a lead.

Albers has done the job all season. It made perfect sense to bring him in. For once, he didn't get the job done. Not Trembley's fault.