NEED one of the Big Three Pitchers Left

[Orioles0615]

19 hours ago, Sir_Loin said:

Arrieta continues to be a person that we are keeping tabs on. Heard we haven't written him off yet. The two sides have talked. Hasn't progressed a ton, but the dialogue is fluid as recent as this morning. 

 

If the O's were even willing to pay for him, would Jake even want to come back here? 

[jamalshw]

6 minutes ago, andrewochs615 said:

If the O's were even willing to pay for him, would Jake even want to come back here? 

I would guess that really depends on what else is out there. I'm sure a return to Baltimore has a price point he'd be willing to accept. Also with Adair well in the rearview mirror, that could help, too.

 

[interloper]

16 minutes ago, andrewochs615 said:

If the O's were even willing to pay for him, would Jake even want to come back here? 

No, of course not. Jake is not going to willingly come here and face the constant interview questions about the time when he sucked as baseball. He'll have to both revisit a bad time of his career and somehow tip toe around blaming the Orioles, who are quite obviously to blame. 

Why would he do that? Just sign with anybody else, even Philly, who have every bit of chance of winning games that the Orioles do, and he wouldn't have to face American League opponents.

It drives me nuts that this is not clearly obvious to every single person on this message board. 

[interloper]

19 hours ago, Sir_Loin said:

Arrieta continues to be a person that we are keeping tabs on. Heard we haven't written him off yet. The two sides have talked. Hasn't progressed a ton, but the dialogue is fluid as recent as this morning. 

 

I really cannot bring myself to believe this piece of information. Jake will have written the O's off long ago. If the two sides have talked, it's the agent telling the Orioles to kindly piss off.

[Tx Oriole]

58 minutes ago, andrewochs615 said:

If the O's were even willing to pay for him, would Jake even want to come back here? 

I don't think so. 

[Tx Oriole]

42 minutes ago, interloper said:

No, of course not. Jake is not going to willingly come here and face the constant interview questions about the time when he sucked as baseball. He'll have to both revisit a bad time of his career and somehow tip toe around blaming the Orioles, who are quite obviously to blame. 

Why would he do that? Just sign with anybody else, even Philly, who have every bit of chance of winning games that the Orioles do, and he wouldn't have to face American League opponents.

It drives me nuts that this is not clearly obvious to every single person on this message board. 

Some fans want Jake back.  I still think Jake has some hurt feelings against the Orioles. No he won't sign with the O's. IMO 

[blid]

4 hours ago, pdiddy said:

Sign both Lynn and Cobb on incentivized 2+ year deals and let’s go win this thing! ?

Seriously, it seems like both are gonna come on nice deals to whoever gets them, and both are pretty solid pitchers, and the O's have a burning need for arms.  I know we'll be lucky if the O's even sign one, but it's not like they're gonna be getting Chris Davis or Mark Trumbo money where they'll weigh you down and no one else will take their contracts.  The outlook for this season with those guys versus without them is night and day.

[atomic]

1 hour ago, Tx Oriole said:

Some fans want Jake back.  I still think Jake has some hurt feelings against the Orioles. No he won't sign with the O's. IMO 

I am sure he would sign with the Orioles in a second if the Orioles offered what Boras asked for a month ago.  But if there are comparable of offers from the Orioles and another team he is going to choose the other team.  

[Dark Helmet]

2 hours ago, interloper said:

No, of course not. Jake is not going to willingly come here and face the constant interview questions about the time when he sucked as baseball. He'll have to both revisit a bad time of his career and somehow tip toe around blaming the Orioles, who are quite obviously to blame. 

Why would he do that? Just sign with anybody else, even Philly, who have every bit of chance of winning games that the Orioles do, and he wouldn't have to face American League opponents.

It drives me nuts that this is not clearly obvious to every single person on this message board. 

Because it's not obvious. If the Orioles give him the beat deal (which they won't anyhow) he will sign with the Orioles. I can't believe it's not obvious to you it's about money...period.

[atomic]

54 minutes ago, blid said:

Seriously, it seems like both are gonna come on nice deals to whoever gets them, and both are pretty solid pitchers, and the O's have a burning need for arms.  I know we'll be lucky if the O's even sign one, but it's not like they're gonna be getting Chris Davis or Mark Trumbo money where they'll weigh you down and no one else will take their contracts.  The outlook for this season with those guys versus without them is night and day.

Yeah if you could get them on 2 year deals sign them both.   Of course, its not my money.  The pitching staff right now is already weak.  What if one of the top 3 starters goes on the Disabled List in April. You might as well give up on the season right there.  I feel you need at least one more starter to put a competitive team on the field.   I am not sure how long until Hunter Harvey is ready. That should determine whether you sign two of them (Like this is a possibility)

[Dark Helmet]

It's now being reported the Phillies are atleast considering signing 2 of the 3 remaining top SP.  Just because the price comes down doesn't necessarily favor the Orioles. More teams will get involved as they do.

[Dark Helmet]

I could easily see Lynn and Cobb both ending up in Philly and Jake in DC. We're getting our hopes up that a SP falls into the Orioles laps...then remember it's the Orioles.

[atomic]

5 minutes ago, Dark Helmet said:

Because it's not obvious. If the Orioles give him the beat deal (which they won't anyhow) he will sign with the Orioles. I can't believe it's not obvious to you it's about money...period.

You don't hire Boras unless you aren't concerned about the money.  Perfect revenge for Arrieta would be a long expensive deal from the Orioles where he goes back to not being able to make it out of the 5th inning.  

[atomic]

2 minutes ago, Dark Helmet said:

I could easily see Lynn and Cobb both ending up in Philly and Jake in DC. We're getting our hopes up that a SP falls into the Orioles laps...then remember it's the Orioles.

Yeah even when people say we signed someone we can see him show up at spring training with another team.  

[Spy Fox]

2 minutes ago, atomic said:

You don't hire Boras unless you aren't concerned about the money.  Perfect revenge for Arrieta would be a long expensive deal from the Orioles where he goes back to not being able to make it out of the 5th inning.  

I doubt Arrieta himself would describe any future where he's a bad pitcher as perfect revenge.