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15 minutes ago, Redskins Rick said:

Damn, but, fact is, we had 2 good years, and yeah 2014, ALCS, and all, so close to the WS.

I know some are not happy unless WS visit.

 

Just Rick wouldn't have made that mistake.  Just sayin.  

I'd be very happy with just making the playoffs.  Braves are my 2nd favorite team, and I was so pleased with them wining the division - such a great feeling to clinch (that's not what she said).  It stung some to get whipped by LA, but that paled to getting there.   Always want to get there - no matter what happens afterward.  

 

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On 10/17/2018 at 1:25 AM, Can_of_corn said:

Some folks believe that the O's traded away the 750K in slot money to the Phillies because ownership had already decided that was their upper budget for international players this season.

That was sort of stupid, right?

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13 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

You're asking me?

Yes, very much so for a number of reasons that I've already bored other posters by listing.

Yeah I haven't been keeping up on the related threads. No fun or reward in being the fan of a stupid team. I posted last year that I was going to call it quits in regard to following the O's closely if they dumped Kim and Adam left or retired. It might be one of the few promises I keep on this board. Watching Mullins, Villar, and Stewart at the end of the season was fun, but it's not enough.

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7 minutes ago, LA2 said:

Yeah I haven't been keeping up on the related threads. No fun or reward in being the fan of a stupid team. I posted last year that I was going to call it quits in regard to following the O's closely if they dumped Kim and Adam left or retired. It might be one of the few promises I keep on this board. Watching Mullins, Villar, and Stewart at the end of the season was fun, but it's not enough.

At the time I said it was stupid and a group of us make Jack Zoellner references.

I have since added that advertising to the Marlins how much they were willing to spend was a bad move from a tactical standpoint and might have served to embolden them.

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22 hours ago, Can_of_corn said:

I'd rate 2012 over 2016 and it wouldn't be close.  That season was a lot of fun.

2012 had the one-time-only statue dedications that, it turned out, celebrated both the team's past and its current resurgence. (And gave Roy some air time -- I guess that's a plus. ;))

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7 hours ago, spiritof66 said:

2012 had the one-time-only statue dedications that, it turned out, celebrated both the team's past and its current resurgence. (And gave Roy some air time -- I guess that's a plus. ;))

The Cal Ripken statue game is one of the most fun I have ever been to. 

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