Will this weekend be the last time we see Chris Davis in Baltimore?

[Redskins Rick]

1 minute ago, Sanfran327 said:

Good grief. Thank you.

I think you could use Howard in Philly as a similar comp.

[Sanfran327]

Just now, Redskins Rick said:

What you said, is 100% factual.

However, most owners are shrewd businessmen who typically are self built and they are usually very opinionated about sending a guy packing like that.

I'll give you that. But what else do we need to see from Chris Davis at this point? Is there any reasonable chance that he revives his career? I'd say 98% no. 

[Sanfran327]

1 minute ago, Redskins Rick said:

I think you could use Howard in Philly as a similar comp.

Sorry, I gotta disagree. He was bad. But he bounced back and he was never nearly this bad. 

[Redskins Rick]

Just now, Sanfran327 said:

I'll give you that. But what else do we need to see from Chris Davis at this point? Is there any reasonable chance that he revives his career? I'd say 98% no. 

and you are more than likely correct.

Didnt Braun with the Brewers have a few rough years, and then bounce some of the way back?

[Can_of_corn]

3 minutes ago, Redskins Rick said:

I think you could use Howard in Philly as a similar comp.

Only in his final year was he as bad as Davis has been in either of the last two years.

[Redskins Rick]

1 minute ago, Sanfran327 said:

Sorry, I gotta disagree. He was bad. But he bounced back and he was never nearly this bad. 

I got no problem with disagreements, hell, I dont agree with myself sometimes.

But, look at the stats, they are pretty bad, -1.6 WAR and Davis did a -1.4 this year.

https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/h/howarry01.shtml

[CallMeBrooksie]

10 minutes ago, Sanfran327 said:

This has nothing to do with spending money. The money is already spent and gone (in a certain sense). We're not talking about asking for additional resources. We're talking about opening up a dead, wasted roster spot. 

Yes, there will be a cost to adding a player to fill his spot, but in all likelihood, it will be a league-minimum rookie player. 

It's easy to talk economic theory when it's not your money in the pot, but for the people who invested a large sum of cash it's not hard to understand why they don't want to give up on him.

They should give up... but that's sure easy for me to say.

Edited September 20, 2019 by CallMeBrooksie

[Can_of_corn]

2 minutes ago, Redskins Rick said:

and you are more than likely correct.

Didnt Braun with the Brewers have a few rough years, and then bounce some of the way back?

Guys don't have -2.8 win years.

[Frobby]

Just now, Can_of_corn said:

Only in his final year was he as bad as Davis has been in either of the last two years.

True, but he cost even more (per season), at a time when salaries were a bit lower than they are now.   Overall though, I’d rather have the Howard contract.  

[Redskins Rick]

Just now, Can_of_corn said:

Only in his final year was he as bad as Davis has been in either of the last two years.

Horse Hockey.

Yes, Davis put up an awlful 2.8 WAR

Howard had 4 years of -1.2 and then a -1.6

You could say he was pretty bad at 25 mill per year.

[Can_of_corn]

1 minute ago, Redskins Rick said:

I got no problem with disagreements, hell, I dont agree with myself sometimes.

But, look at the stats, they are pretty bad, -1.6 WAR and Davis did a -1.4 this year.

https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/h/howarry01.shtml

That was the last year of the deal.  You think Davis can put up a -1.6 in three years?

[Can_of_corn]

1 minute ago, Redskins Rick said:

Horse Hockey.

Yes, Davis put up an awlful 2.8 WAR

Howard had 4 years of -1.2 and then a -1.6

You could say he was pretty bad at 25 mill per year.

He was awful.

but better than Davis.

[Can_of_corn]

1 minute ago, Frobby said:

True, but he cost even more (per season), at a time when salaries were a bit lower than they are now.   Overall though, I’d rather have the Howard contract.  

Pretty comparable if you factor in market size.

[Redskins Rick]

Just now, Can_of_corn said:

That was the last year of the deal.  You think Davis can put up a -1.6 in three years?

you want me to say Davis is worth. Sure, Bold Letter DAVIS SUCKS and is worse.

But, with 25 mill a year and kept running him out there, isnt that bad of a comparison. IMO

[7Mo]

16 minutes ago, Sanfran327 said:

I guess if you want to isolate my post to that part of that sentence, you can leap to that conclusion. But if you read the whole thing, or anything else I've said in this thread, it's pretty clear that that's not at all what I think. I'll bite though, and say that if Elias himself wants to keep Davis on the roster beyond the end of the 2019 season, that absolutely makes me question his judgement. 

I have the luxury of being an armchair GM though, and not a real one. 

Fair enough. And I suspect we agree with the idea that there's no way on earth that Elias "wants" Davis on the roster.