Means has arm fatigue (Milone starts opening day)

[Moose Milligan]

2 hours ago, ArtVanDelay said:

I doubt Means ever had much trade value.

I agree.  I think we could have gotten back a couple of mid-level prospects but that's about it.  Means came out of nowhere, he outpitched his peripherals and in the advanced stats era that we're in, anyone on the other side of the negotiating table probably understands that.  

That said, I think Means is in anyone's top 5 reasons to watch this year, strictly to see if he can repeat the performance.  And if he can do it again this year, people are going to hold the fact that he did it in a shortened, wacky season against him.

 

[Can_of_corn]

11 minutes ago, Moose Milligan said:

I agree.  I think we could have gotten back a couple of mid-level prospects but that's about it.  Means came out of nowhere, he outpitched his peripherals and in the advanced stats era that we're in, anyone on the other side of the negotiating table probably understands that.  

That said, I think Means is in anyone's top 5 reasons to watch this year, strictly to see if he can repeat the performance.  And if he can do it again this year, people are going to hold the fact that he did it in a shortened, wacky season against him.

 

I saw how poorly he did in Tony's simulated season.

I don't have much hope for him going forward.

[Moose Milligan]

2 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

I saw how poorly he did in Tony's simulated season.

I don't have much hope for him going forward.

FWIW, he sucked in my simulated season.  But I think Pat Valaika also hit 20 homers or something too.  Austin Hays turned into a low OBP, 40 homer type.  The simulation is a lot of fun but there were wacky performances all around.

[Philip]

“Milone” rhymes with “Moan”

and not the “oh baby” kind, either.

[Can_of_corn]

3 minutes ago, Moose Milligan said:

FWIW, he sucked in my simulated season.  But I think Pat Valaika also hit 20 homers or something too.  Austin Hays turned into a low OBP, 40 homer type.  The simulation is a lot of fun but there were wacky performances all around.

Was a joke.  My lack of faith in Means' ability to duplicate his success has nothing to do with Tony's simulation.

[atomic]

60 games is going to seem like a long year with the way this team is shaping up.

[sportsfan8703]

8 hours ago, atomic said:

60 games is going to seem like a long year with the way this team is shaping up.

Tommy Millie going from NRI to OD SP is a little disheartening, but I’m happy to have the O’s back. 

[DrungoHazewood]

14 hours ago, Can_of_corn said:

Kretlow shot a hole in one on a 427 yard par-4.  Let's see Gerrit Cole do that.

 

Kretlow went 0-4, 8.22 the year he was opening day starter.  And his career record was 27-47 with an 82 ERA+.  Milone is 50-47 with a 90.  Kretlow for the win.

[Redskins Rick]

1 hour ago, sportsfan8703 said:

Tommy Millie going from NRI to OD SP is a little disheartening, but I’m happy to have the O’s back. 

They also considered Eshelman too, from what I was reading, a non roster invitee.

[Sports Guy]

Harvey also has a dead arm right now.

[TommyPickles]

People are so down on Means...  I hope you're all wrong.

[Can_of_corn]

Just now, TommyPickles said:

People are so down on Means...  I hope you're all wrong.

I hope I'm wrong.

I'd much rather he be a key part in future success.

[NCRaven]

1 hour ago, Can_of_corn said:

I hope I'm wrong.

I'd much rather he be a key part in future success.

If anything, I think his age works against that.  That also works against Mancini, along with a lost year.  He's one guy I really feel bad about.  Good player, good guy, but unfortunate situation.

[Can_of_corn]

3 minutes ago, NCRaven said:

If anything, I think his age works against that.  That also works against Mancini, along with a lost year.  He's one guy I really feel bad about.  Good player, good guy, but unfortunate situation.

Solid year in 2020 and a half year in 2021 leading to him getting flipped for a solid prospect counts for me.

[Roll Tide]

So our starters for the 1st series have been announced 

Milone

Cobb

LeBlanc