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Mancini trade market heating up? Orioles willing to deal Santander? Yankees and Mets?


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3 hours ago, Can_of_corn said:

I don't don't like Buck.

I just think that's he's overrated.

At the end of the days the O's finished under 500 with Buck as a manager and his last significant decision as an Oriole's manager cost the O's a chance at advancing in the playoffs.

I most certainly think Buck was involved with bringing Rasmus on.  Just like I think he was involved with the Davis signing and giving Tillman that insane ML deal instead of the minor league contract his performance the previous deal dictated.

Buck brings a lot of good, and bad, to the party.

That said, any team that gets Mancini will be getting a good hitter and a terrific clubhouse presence.   If Buck pushes for him, good for Buck in this instance.  

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4 hours ago, scbalt52 said:

Pepiot and Knack both are intriguing, to me.

Pepiot, Knack, and Beeter, are really intriguing arms. 2/3 of those would help relieve the sting of losing Santander from the 2023 lineup as RF/DH. Stowers and Nottingham could replace Santander and Mancini. With Nottingham playing C when AR DHs. 

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11 minutes ago, sportsfan8703 said:

Pepiot, Knack, and Beeter, are really intriguing arms. 2/3 of those would help relieve the sting of losing Santander from the 2023 lineup as RF/DH. Stowers and Nottingham could replace Santander and Mancini. With Nottingham playing C when AR DHs. 

Santander and Tate for Miguel Vargas, Pepiot, and Knack. Sign me up!

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The Dodgers are the type of team that we could get SP from since they only target TOR SP. Their #3-#5 SP types would be just fine for us and our depth. 

I know we say take the best package available, but with our system, and going bat again with the #1 pick, we should target SP in trades. 
 

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I don't think Santander has the value you guys think he does. .5 fWAR in 76 games this year is 1.1 fWAR pace over 162 games. He's put up 1.6fWAR over he last 3 years spanning 223 games. His LD% is down, his IFFB% has almost doubled, His Hard% is down and his Soft% is up, so the .249 babip isn't even really getting unlucky, it's just from bad contact. 

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9 minutes ago, Tryptamine said:

I don't think Santander has the value you guys think he does. .5 fWAR in 76 games this year is 1.1 fWAR pace over 162 games. He's put up 1.6fWAR over he last 3 years spanning 223 games. His LD% is down, his IFFB% has almost doubled, His Hard% is down and his Soft% is up, so the .249 babip isn't even really getting unlucky, it's just from bad contact. 

Yeah I don't think he has much value, but the 2nd year of control is at least something. And I think Elias knows he's not going to be worth his arbitration cost next year, so he's going to trade him as long as he gets anything of note for him (one pitcher + one 17 yr old lottery ticket perhaps). Whether that's this year or in the offseason. 

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