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5 hours ago, Alasdaire said:

Grayson has been allowed to go seven innings twice in his career, so I wouldn't hold my breath for that. The past three starts have been six innings, so I would think that's the ask.

He’d be allowed to go  15 innings if his pitch count was low enough 

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1 minute ago, Going Underground said:

Grayson pitching tonight,weather permitting in the future home of the Orioles. 

And Cole Irvin got a tune up inning today in garbage time.    ESPN now has a blank for one of the next five games starting Friday.

Maybe he can do enough tonight to get near the finish line of his reset, or at least the random mop up appearance could give him a little extra juice.

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4 minutes ago, Just Regular said:

And Cole Irvin got a tune up inning today in garbage time.    ESPN now has a blank for one of the next five games starting Friday.

Maybe he can do enough tonight to get near the finish line of his reset, or at least the random mop up appearance could give him a little extra juice.

I have a strange feeling that the Orioles will be playing a DH,either straight or day/night in the next week. 

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Just gave up two runs in the third (one earned) and is through 70 pitches. All of the balls were on the infield dirt, but he didn't help himself with two walks.

One of the runners who reached was Sal Frelick, who might have the best bat-to-ball skills in all of the minors. Mountcastle couldn't short hop it and was charged with an error. Norby too slow on another grounder up the middle that I feel Ortiz probably gets to.

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2 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

Only had a 60% str% in his first 51 pitches.

The next 41 pitches, his str% was 68%.

His starts are so off that it’s really effecting his numbers in totality. 

Kind of similar to how guys in Norfolk have talked about how good he is at working himself out of jams. Looked at another way, they're implying he starts off slowly before snapping out of it.

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He's just inconsistent and that's probably not going to change any time soon but they might as well bring him back. At least there's a chance we'll get the good version. With Irvin you know you're not going to get much. 

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8 hours ago, vab said:

He's just inconsistent and that's probably not going to change any time soon but they might as well bring him back. At least there's a chance we'll get the good version. With Irvin you know you're not going to get much. 

Isn’t G-Rod going to have an innings cap?   Maybe have Irvin as the 5 and G-Rod back up if there is a problem

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