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13 minutes ago, Jim'sKid26 said:

It might be time to invest in a sports psychologist. 

The moment was just too big for him and he couldn't self-correct.

It was really painful to watch.

Multi-million dollar arm.....

What gave it away?  Seems everyone here can tell that "the moment was too big for him."

Okay, fine.  I disagree, but I'd like it if people could clue me in on what it is that made it so obvious that "the moment was too big for him."

Is the moment "too big" for anyone that doesn't perform in a high stakes moment?

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So that’s a wrap on Grayson’s regular season.  He went 7-4 and threw 122 major league innings at a 4.35 ERA, plus 41.1 AAA innings at a 1.98 ERA.  So, that’s 163.1 innings, plus whatever he throws in

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That was a statement game from Grayson.  I’m not sure he’s arrived, but he’s on the train.  

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Growing pains are hard. But it sure looks like he has found his way back to being what he is supposed to be. That was quite an impressive outing. 

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17 minutes ago, Moose Milligan said:

What gave it away?  Seems everyone here can tell that "the moment was too big for him."

Okay, fine.  I disagree, but I'd like it if people could clue me in on what it is that made it so obvious that "the moment was too big for him."

Is the moment "too big" for anyone that doesn't perform in a high stakes moment?

Grayson was solid the whole second half and has good control so getting knocked out in the 2nd inning and giving up 4 walks certainly seems to suggest that yesterday was very uncharacteristic for him.  So, how can we explain it?   The long layoff?   Just a coincidence to have his worst game of the year yesterday?   Too hyped up or nervous and couldn’t get it together enough to settle down?   I don’t really know but the last one is my best guess for now.

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2 minutes ago, RZNJ said:

Grayson was solid the whole second half and has good control so getting knocked out in the 2nd inning and giving up 4 walks certainly seems to suggest that yesterday was very uncharacteristic for him.  So, how can we explain it?   The long layoff?   Just a coincidence to have his worst game of the year yesterday?   Too hyped up or nervous and couldn’t get it together enough to settle down?   I don’t really know but the last one is my best guess for now.

Does it need to be explained other than "he just didn't have his best stuff?"

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13 minutes ago, Moose Milligan said:

What gave it away?  Seems everyone here can tell that "the moment was too big for him."

Okay, fine.  I disagree, but I'd like it if people could clue me in on what it is that made it so obvious that "the moment was too big for him."

Is the moment "too big" for anyone that doesn't perform in a high stakes moment?

It's just BS. You don't get to MLB and have moments that are too big for you. He just had a bad day. That happens.

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They made him throw strikes yesterday, which was a challenge for him with the lack of command. That’s all. I have every confidence in him being the star that they (and we) believe him to be headed towards.

I posted that I thought Texas was a better matchup for Means than GrayRod yesterday. Perhaps if Meansy doesn’t experience the elbow soreness he gets the ball yesterday instead. I guess we will never truly know because you know that management won’t come out and say it if it’s true.

The kid threw a clunker. It was evident from the first batter that he didn’t have his command yesterday. I blame Hyde for leaving him in when everyone in the stadium knew that he was struggling to find the strike zone and didn’t seem to completely trust his stuff. 

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11 minutes ago, banks703 said:

The kid threw a clunker. It was evident from the first batter that he didn’t have his command yesterday. I blame Hyde for leaving him in when everyone in the stadium knew that he was struggling to find the strike zone and didn’t seem to completely trust his stuff. 

When would you have taken him out?

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It seemed like a bad omen when Grayson got to two strikes on Semien in the first AB of the game, only to surrender a soft single (EV 68) to LF. He got to two strikes on every batter in the first inning but allowed the single and the walks to Seager and Carter (who, granted, benefited from an egregious call on 3-and-2).

He continued to look like pre-demotion Grayson when he got to 2-and-2 on Lowe before walking him with two four-seam fastballs that missed inside. He had two strikes on Taveras (two-run double on a 1-and-2 four-seam fastball), Seager (BB on a 3-and-2 four-seam fastball), Garver (swinging-bunt RBI single on an 0-and-2 changeup), and Heim (RBI single on an 0-and-2 four-seam fastball) before he was lifted.

As in his April and May struggles, he was not putting hitters away. I don't know if it was pitch selection or something else, but it was an inopportune time to revert to his early form. Hoping he gets a chance to redeem himself out of the bullpen in a Game 5.

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He laid an egg.     

One of the things I'll wonder is if more experience would have helped.     In the aggregate, Elias' decisions have of course been great.

The Club will have control of Grayson's 2029 season, which probably will be very valuable.

The 2022 team was not supposed to win, and that year Grayson's talent was conserved and/or polished while Watkins/Voth/Zimmermann made 50 starts.

His ability to render championship caliber performance yesterday might have been greater if he had more MLB seasoning.

Backs to the wall, but still a small chance he'll get to try again on Friday.

 

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1 hour ago, Moose Milligan said:

What gave it away?  Seems everyone here can tell that "the moment was too big for him."

Okay, fine.  I disagree, but I'd like it if people could clue me in on what it is that made it so obvious that "the moment was too big for him."

Is the moment "too big" for anyone that doesn't perform in a high stakes moment?

The moment was too big for Kershaw the other day.

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