2023 15th Round Pick (#451): Qrey Lott - OF - (HS) Lowndes HS (GA)

[RZNJ]

8 minutes ago, baltfan said:

Can they not go the 5% over?   

Also, if they were to sign him before next years draft and it comes out of the 2024 pool, they would know exactly how much underslot they would need to account for  in the 2024 draft.

[Hallas]

1 hour ago, baltfan said:

Can they not go the 5% over?   

I think if he's projected in the 3rd round or better, the O's wouldn't have the bonus pool to sign him.  We're drafting late next year unless we collapse down the stretch, which has negative effects on our bonus pool.

[RZNJ]

1 hour ago, Hallas said:

I think if he's projected in the 3rd round or better, the O's wouldn't have the bonus pool to sign him.  We're drafting late next year unless we collapse down the stretch, which has negative effects on our bonus pool.

If they are allowed to use next years pool they can pretty much do whatever they want to sign him.   They managed to save about 600K this year paying full slot to #1.    If Lott were to blow up and become a 1M type of bonus player it can certainly be done by going underslot in other rounds.   Our only serious underslots were in #8 and #9 this year.   You’d simply just going underslot earlier if you thought Lott was worth it.  
 

This years slot money for the last picks of rounds 6-10 was about 1M total.  A team could decide to punt that part of the draft on senior 50K type signings and save about 750K their plus the 225K they’re allowed to offer the draft and follow.  Now you’ve added an extra 2nd or 3rd round pick with a 925K bonus and paid slot to picks 1-5 without even going into the 5%.

Edited July 28, 2023 by RZNJ

[baltfan]

6 hours ago, RZNJ said:

If they are allowed to use next years pool they can pretty much do whatever they want to sign him.   They managed to save about 600K this year paying full slot to #1.    If Lott were to blow up and become a 1M type of bonus player it can certainly be done by going underslot in other rounds.   Our only serious underslots were in #8 and #9 this year.   You’d simply just going underslot earlier if you thought Lott was worth it.  
 

This years slot money for the last picks of rounds 6-10 was about 1M total.  A team could decide to punt that part of the draft on senior 50K type signings and save about 750K their plus the 225K they’re allowed to offer the draft and follow.  Now you’ve added an extra 2nd or 3rd round pick with a 925K bonus and paid slot to picks 1-5 without even going into the 5%.

And if we can get an extra pick for Gunnar finishing high in ROY, that would also add to the pool. 

[emmett16]

7 hours ago, baltfan said:

And if we can get an extra pick for Gunnar finishing high in ROY, that would also add to the pool. 

Doesn’t he have to win the ROY to get the extra pick?

[baltfan]

35 minutes ago, emmett16 said:

Doesn’t he have to win the ROY to get the extra pick?

No he can finish top 2 or 3, I have seen conflicting things. Definitely at least top two earns a pick. 

[EdwinRip]

You have to win ROY to get the pick.

[CharmCityHokie]

4 hours ago, baltfan said:

No he can finish top 2 or 3, I have seen conflicting things. Definitely at least top two earns a pick. 

I think you're confusing the winner of ROY resulting in their team getting an extra draft pick with ROY runner-ups earning themselves (the player) a full year of service time (like Adley).

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2022/04/looking-at-the-early-results-of-the-prospect-promotion-incentive.html

"Under the Prospect Promotion Incentive, teams can earn an extra pick in the draft if a rookie-eligible player with 60 days or fewer of major league service who is included on a preseason top 100 prospect list by two or more of Baseball America, ESPN.com or MLB.com is promoted and finishes high in award voting in any year before he is eligible for arbitration. A Rookie of the Year win or a top three finish in MVP or Cy Young voting in his pre-arbitration seasons would net the team that extra draft pick. If the international draft is implemented, he could earn the club a selection if second or third in Rookie of the Year, or fourth or fifth in Cy Young. A team can gain at most one PPI pick in the amateur draft and three total PPI picks for any individual prospect, two international and one amateur, with a max of one such pick per year."

 

 

[baltfan]

29 minutes ago, CharmCityHokie said:

I think you're confusing the winner of ROY resulting in their team getting an extra draft pick with ROY runner-ups earning themselves (the player) a full year of service time (like Adley).

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2022/04/looking-at-the-early-results-of-the-prospect-promotion-incentive.html

"Under the Prospect Promotion Incentive, teams can earn an extra pick in the draft if a rookie-eligible player with 60 days or fewer of major league service who is included on a preseason top 100 prospect list by two or more of Baseball America, ESPN.com or MLB.com is promoted and finishes high in award voting in any year before he is eligible for arbitration. A Rookie of the Year win or a top three finish in MVP or Cy Young voting in his pre-arbitration seasons would net the team that extra draft pick. If the international draft is implemented, he could earn the club a selection if second or third in Rookie of the Year, or fourth or fifth in Cy Young. A team can gain at most one PPI pick in the amateur draft and three total PPI picks for any individual prospect, two international and one amateur, with a max of one such pick per year."

 

 

I guess you are correct.  

[CharmCityHokie]

38 minutes ago, baltfan said:

I guess you are correct.  

I'm just kinda guessing too, the whole system is so convoluted it's hard to keep track of what is what

[panick]

2 hours ago, CharmCityHokie said:

I'm just kinda guessing too, the whole system is so convoluted it's hard to keep track of what is what

You can send your thanks to Manfred man.