Corbin Burnes 2024

[Malike]

I notice he called out the MLB about the pitcher injuries and said they won't do anything about it or something close to that. Good interview after the game.

[Bemorewins]

44 minutes ago, Frobby said:

Kremer has looked very good so far.  Wells was pretty good in start 1, shaky in start 2.  Irvin has only started once, and looked mediocre.  Overall, before today, our starters had the 8th best ERA in MLB (3.25) and were 2nd best in IP/start.  Needless to say, today’s effort only helps that.  I’d gladly take the performance of our rotation to date all year, and that’s before Means and Bradish have returned.   

Kremer was awesome on Sunday, Wells has been okay (we know his ongoing issues with the long ball), but Irvin is not very good IMO. That was the spot that would have been upgraded if we had chosen.

But overall, I agree our SP has not been an issue. It’s really been the bats more than anything. But I’m sure most will come around (not really feeling good about Urias though). 

[Uli2001]

10 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

He could do this 30 more times, win CY and WS MVP and I still wouldn’t consider signing him to the contract he is going to get.

 

The money is not mine, it's the new ownership's. But if they are serious about putting a winning team (back) in Baltimore, at some point they are going to have to spend.

[Snutchy]

3 minutes ago, Malike said:

I notice he called out the MLB about the pitcher injuries and said they won't do anything about it or something close to that. Good interview after the game.

He did after being asked. He seems like an honest dude. I don’t think he would have volunteered that information though. 

[Sports Guy]

Just now, Uli2001 said:

The money is not mine, it's the new ownership's. But if they are serious about putting a winning team (back) in Baltimore, at some point they are going to have to spend.

I keep reading this and while I agree they need to spend some, there is nothing that says they must spend poorly. 

[Uli2001]

1 minute ago, Bemorewins said:

Kremer was awesome on Sunday, Wells has been okay (we know his ongoing issues with the long ball), but Irvin is not very good IMO. That was the spot that would have been upgraded if we had chosen.

But overall, I agree our SP has not been an issue. It’s really been the bats more than anything. But I’m sure most will come around (not really feeling good about Urias though). 

To me, SP and hitting will be stellar, just give them time. These starters and hitters have a track record.

What will hold the Orioles down again is the bullpen. It doesn't matter how good they look now. They also have a track record.

[Malike]

Just now, Snutchy said:

He did after being asked. He seems like an honest dude. I don’t think he would have volunteered that information though. 

I was impressed that he didn't deflect it. Stand up guy.

[Uli2001]

1 minute ago, Sports Guy said:

I keep reading this and while I agree they need to spend some, there is nothing that says they must spend poorly. 

Angelos had the top payroll in 1997, if I am not mistaken (the NYY weren't yet this joke they have become). It can be done, not the top payroll, but near the top. The Orioles have a lot of fans, who will come back if they start winning consistently.

[Sports Guy]

1 minute ago, Uli2001 said:

Angelos had the top payroll in 1997, if I am not mistaken (the NYY weren't yet this joke they have become). It can be done, not the top payroll, but near the top. The Orioles have a lot of fans, who will come back if they start winning consistently.

The Os payroll that year was around 70M iirc. Big difference.

Atlanta and Houston win consistently.  Tampa wins consistently.  Those teams don’t make these types of FA mistakes.

 

[Sports Guy]

The only argument for signing Burnes is that the Os have so many guys who will be really cheap for a while.

But injuries and decline just make it a bad idea

[Bemorewins]

34 minutes ago, Uli2001 said:

To me, SP and hitting will be stellar, just give them time. These starters and hitters have a track record.

What will hold the Orioles down again is the bullpen. It doesn't matter how good they look now. They also have a track record.

I’m not sure “stellar” is how I would describe our current rotation or lineup. I don’t think the back 3 starters have a “stellar” upside though Wells (until he breaks down) and Kremer can be solid back end guys. There is absolutely NOTHING “stellar” about Irvin and his low 90’s fastball. Our lineup is missing some RHH prowess and we have an open hole on the grass because Urias is just not good enough with the bat.

[Billy F-Face3]

2 hours ago, Malike said:

I notice he called out the MLB about the pitcher injuries and said they won't do anything about it or something close to that. Good interview after the game.

I like how honest and transparent he is. He's respectful, not afraid to voice his opinion and where he stands on things and he's still respectful in doing it. I find that refreshing.

[ShoelesJoe]

4 hours ago, Sports Guy said:

He could do this 30 more times, win CY and WS MVP and I still wouldn’t consider signing him to the contract he is going to get.

 

So what kind of contract do you think he's going to get should he test the market at the end of this year? I would have thought it's be stupid money for sure, but there appears to have been some kind of realignment wrt pitcher contracts this last off-season. Certainly, Snell and Montgomery didn't get near the stupid money offers they were expecting. If I was a pitcher approaching free agency after 2024 I'd be feeling a lot more uncertain about my future than a year ago. 

You think if we offered Burnes 7/250 he'd turn it down? 

[Sports Guy]

6 hours ago, ShoelesJoe said:

So what kind of contract do you think he's going to get should he test the market at the end of this year? I would have thought it's be stupid money for sure, but there appears to have been some kind of realignment wrt pitcher contracts this last off-season. Certainly, Snell and Montgomery didn't get near the stupid money offers they were expecting. If I was a pitcher approaching free agency after 2024 I'd be feeling a lot more uncertain about my future than a year ago. 

You think if we offered Burnes 7/250 he'd turn it down? 

No, I think he signs that.

Edited April 10 by Sports Guy

[waroriole]

It’s so nice having an ace. But how long will he be an ace?
 

He doesn’t have a lot of miles on his arm for someone with his stuff and results. Only 728 career MLB innings, since he started his career as a RP. Figures to add another 200 or so if we can make a run in the playoffs. So far, the FB has maintained its velocity from last year. Just watching him this year he seems to be more of a pitcher than a thrower. He seems like he’s survive a drop in velocity. It depends on what it would take for him to sign.