So, who WOULD you trade?

[Can_of_corn]

Just now, Warehouse said:

I’d certainly trade Holiday for, say, Skenes and Bednar, but it’s tough to find a match with the big three that works for both sides.  Like I’d probably do Basallo for Skubal, but I’d doubt that would be enough for Detroit and I wouldn’t want to add in another top 100 type of guy.

In my mind, Urias, Stowers and Norby are the spare parts where we need to find a way to get value for them this July.

AND?

[Warehouse]

2 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

AND?

I’d trade anyone for the right return (except Gunnar, Adley, Burnes).  

However, it’s more likely than not that there won’t be a deal that works with Holliday, Mayo, or Basallo because at that point whoever we’re trading for (Logan Gilbert, Logan Webb, even Skubal) will be of such quality that they will be considered in the “untouchable” category from the other side and we’d likely need to overpay. 

I think it’s more likely that we trade Kjerstad or Cowser but even then it needs to be the right deal.  If such a deal isn’t available, Elias can likely get someone like Scherzer, Fedde, Quintana, Severino, Gray, Blackburn, etc. for a package without a top 100 guy.

Regardless of the top end deals, we should trade Norby, Stowers, and Urias for whatever we can get (at least relief help) as they don’t have spots and their value will only go down.

 

[bpilktree]

The Padres probably should have kept to this thought of not trading some guys.  That trade for Soto could turn out to be one of the worst trades in history.  Makenzie Gore looking like top of rotation pitcher, CJ Abram’s looking like future multiple all star type player, James Wood could be one of best players in game in couple years, Robert Hassell another very talented prospect. Jarlin Sousa young flamethrower but has struggled in lower minors at 20.   That trade changed their entire franchise along with Nationals as well. The friars did move Soto for a decent package to Yankees but not nearly the upside and talent.  

[Moose Milligan]

57 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

You would move GRod?

No. Just was more focused on what bats to move since we’ve got a surplus and need pitching. 

[Winter]

No indication ever that Elias is dealing long term controlled position player(s) he sees as part of the near future which is likely all of Cowser, Kjerstad, Mayo, Basallo, Westburg, Holliday, Adley, Gunnar, Povich, McDermott, possibly Bradfield. 

 

Full year of Burnes cost Ortiz, Hall & an end of the 1st round pick. A rental at less talent than Burnes should NOT take any of those above player to obtain anyways, starter nor bullpen arms. -- Going after long term starter via trade at the deadline is the wrong move imo and should be addressed in the offseason via Free Agency. -- Granted new ownership is likely to spend more unlike the past couple years. 

 

The likes of Stowers, Norby, Beavers, Urias etc. should be able to bring back a couple decent rentals. -- Last year Flaherty who was a bust for us, cost us our #16/#18 prospects, Norby/Stowers are rated much higher, should net something better. 

 

Very Wild card: What contenders has influx of pitching that could use Santander?(Mariners/Twins maybe) VERY unlikely he'd ever be realistically traded but his value is high at the moment and Kjerstad can take his slot. 

[oriolediehard]

I would trade Hays, Mullins, Mountcastle, Mateo, Urias and Cowser. 

[Jagwar]

Just wish Elias had drafted more pitchers

[RZNJ]

I would be willing to trade O’Hearn or Mountcastle,  Kjerstad, any prospect rated #4 (Kjerstad) or higher.    Hays, Mullins, Urias, Mateo also.

 

[RZNJ]

Just now, Jagwar said:

Just wish Elias had drafted more pitchers

Instead of Cowser, Kjerstad, Norby, Westburg, Bradfield, Henderson, Rutschman,  etc.?

[orioles22]

No way: Adley and Gunnar

Very unlikely: Mayo, Westburg, Cowser, Basallo, Grod

I'd consider moving for a controllable ace or reliever like Miller: Holliday, Kjerstad, Povich, Mountcastle or O'Hearn

More likely to move: Norby, Mullins, Hays, Kremer, Cano, Stowers, Irvin etc....

 

 

[RZNJ]

A different question.  Who would Mike Elias trade?
 

Amswer.  No one off the current team excluding Urias.    Not Holliday, Basallo, Mayo or Kjerstad.   Probably not Povich or McDermott.

 

[Jagwar]

12 minutes ago, RZNJ said:

Instead of Cowser, Kjerstad, Norby, Westburg, Bradfield, Henderson, Rutschman,  etc.?

Bradfield and Norby maybe

You cherry picked the winners. I could dig deeper for the maybes or the mehs 

Grenier, Servideo, Haskin, Cook, Hernaiz, Rhodes, Trimble, Williams, Burns, Pavolony, Willems, Higgins, Wagner

[Three Run Homer]

I would absolutely not trade:  Adley, Burnes, Henderson, Westburg, Rodriguez, Holliday, Mayo, Povich

I would have to be blown away (e.g. controllable ace) to trade:  Cowser, Kjerstad, Basallo (no more than one)

We should trade:  at least one of Urias, Mateo or Mountcastle (to make room for Mayo); Norby, Stowers 

We could trade:  anyone else in the system for a fair return

The main guys coming back need to help us win a World Series this year.  No Crochet.  

You aren't getting a #3 starter with control for next year for Norby, Stowers and Urias.  

[RZNJ]

22 minutes ago, Jagwar said:

Bradfield and Norby maybe

You cherry picked the winners. I could dig deeper for the maybes or the mehs 

Grenier, Servideo, Haskin, Cook, Hernaiz, Rhodes, Trimble, Williams, Burns, Pavolony, Willems, Higgins, Wagner

Well, your best chance of getting a stud pitcher would be in the first round, wouldn’t it?

[Philip]

I was trying to frame the question in the other direction, about what other teams want, but that brings up other questions, none of which we can answer.

Has anybody called Mike and said, “I can’t afford Kjerstad, but I’ll give you my #13 for Stowers”? Or something like that?

We’re discussing major trades, but what about medium trades?

My answer to the question is, I’m willing to trade almost anybody except Adley, Jordan, and Gunnar.

I would love to trade Mountcastle(who isn't really very good on Defense, per Baseball Savant)I would be happy to trade Santander.

Happy to clean out the bullpen.”YOU get a reliever! YOU get a reliever! EVERYBODY gets a reliever!”

(but that’s not gonna happen.)

Id like to drop Mccann, Hays and Urias off at the foundling’s home, in a basket, with a polite note.

But that’s not gonna happen either.

Oh well, well find out in 30days and four hours.

Edited Tuesday at 02:29 by Philip