Clubhouse issues?

[Sports Guy]

9 minutes ago, Moose Milligan said:

How could any of us know if he lost the clubhouse when none of us have clubhouse access?

Source: trust me

 

 

[Sports Guy]

7 hours ago, Aristotelian said:

I don't see any reason to read that quote as implying clubhouse issues.

Perhaps the better way of putting it is organization issues vs clubhouse issues.

 

[RZNJ]

What a nothing burger!

 

 

[Spy Fox]

What exactly was the question that was asked here? And is there a video version rather than just a text version? 

[waroriole]

The appeal of Hyde was always that he has the respect of the clubhouse. I’ve never been a fan of his but I get that argument. He’s poor in bullpen and player management. He’s overly reliant on L/R matchups and tends to run his main guys into the ground. You don’t see any strategic thinking in late game substitutions. 
 

I don’t know, and nobody here does, if he’s lost the respect of the clubhouse. If that’s even partially true though, you have to make the change. He doesn’t provide enough in other areas to make it worth losing his main strength. I’d hate to see us go down the path of the Blue Jays. Everyone thought when Vlad came up they’d be winning the division multiple times and playing in a World Series. It’s all very fleeting and you don’t want to waste prime years with a guy who currently lacks the capability to get us there. 

[Sports Guy]

6 minutes ago, Spy Fox said:

What exactly was the question that was asked here? And is there a video version rather than just a text version? 

Just based off of that quote, is there any reason to think some underlying issues are going on. Like I said, maybe not with the clubhouse but maybe the players aren’t happy with the FO?

[waroriole]

1 minute ago, Sports Guy said:

Just based off of that quote, is there any reason to think some underlying issues are going on. Like I said, maybe not with the clubhouse but maybe the players aren’t happy with the FO?

It would make sense that they’re not happy with the FO. Down the stretch in September we’re playing struggling rookies and Maton/Rivera, while watching Norby become a big leaguer in Miami. 

[dystopia]

Treat players like robots instead of human beings and this is what happens. Elias and Sig are going to learn that the hard way if they're not learning already.

[Aristotelian]

9 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

Just based off of that quote, is there any reason to think some underlying issues are going on. Like I said, maybe not with the clubhouse but maybe the players aren’t happy with the FO?

 

23 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

Perhaps the better way of putting it is organization issues vs clubhouse issues.

 

Whatever the question was, he says he's not answering it and it's a question for the front office. I don't see how that means or implies anything negative. Maybe there is something going on but that quote is not evidence. 

[waroriole]

6 minutes ago, Aristotelian said:

 

Whatever the question was, he says he's not answering it and it's a question for the front office. I don't see how that means or implies anything negative. Maybe there is something going on but that quote is not evidence. 

You think that’s a positive response?

[maybenxtyr]

1 hour ago, Orioles0615 said:

We can’t just keep using the injury excuse. The Orioles aren’t the only playoff teams beat up. Look at the Dodgers 

There's a slight difference of payroll and the ability to overcome injuries there. 

 

LA 238.5M

Baltimore 108.5M

[Sports Guy]

19 minutes ago, Aristotelian said:

 

Whatever the question was, he says he's not answering it and it's a question for the front office. I don't see how that means or implies anything negative. Maybe there is something going on but that quote is not evidence. 

It’s just the tone of things.  It would be nice if there was video.

And btw, I’m not saying this is for sure a sign of anything.  Just asking the question if it is.

[Can_of_corn]

7 minutes ago, maybenxtyr said:

There's a slight difference of payroll and the ability to overcome injuries there. 

 

LA 238.5M

Baltimore 108.5M

Why do folks always have to cry about payroll?

The O's had the top farm in the game, they shouldn't have to resort to the depths they have to find guys that can stand on second base with a glove on their hand.

Part of building a team is building depth.  The O's have traded a lot of that position player depth to fill the holes in their pitching staff generated by their draft strategy.

[Sports Guy]

10 minutes ago, maybenxtyr said:

There's a slight difference of payroll and the ability to overcome injuries there. 

 

LA 238.5M

Baltimore 108.5M

And even with that, the Dodgers had a long stretch of being a 500ish team. They got a little healthier and starting winning more.

[Sports Guy]

Thank you to Matt for providing the video.