I miss MacPhail

[millertime]

O.K., I'll play along. Who are the four 200 innings guys on the roster?

I have no idea. El Gordo seems to think that because of the fact that we have 11 SP options to choose from, apparently at least 4 of them will pitch 200 innings this year. But don't challenge him to that because it is considered whining in his eyes.

[scOtt]

Guthrie

Eveland (majors + minors)

Wada (including 20-some innings in the playoffs)

And...

Chen?

[El Gordo]

Guthrie

Eveland (majors + minors)

Wada (including 20-some innings in the playoffs)

And...

Chen?

Chen threw 188 in 2010, had injury problems last year. I also wouldn't be surprised to see Britton throw close to 200.

[scOtt]

Chen Thew 188 in 2010, had injury problems last year. I also wouldn't be surprise to see Britton throw close to 200.

Even if it's combined majors and minors, Matusz, Arrieta and Tillman better had all be close. And yes, Britton should be close too.

[scOtt]

Just did a little research... Tillman threw 62 for the Orioles this past year and 76.1 for the Tides. Only 138.1 total. Not sure where that puts us...

[TonySoprano]

I'll go out on a limb here and say Guthrie is the only one with 200 innings this year. Bold. I know

[SammyBirdland]

I'll go out on a limb here and say Guthrie is the only one with 200 innings this year. Bold. I know

Hopefully for 2012 they'll rename days that Guthrie pitches to "Orioles Take Your Bat to Work Day".

[theobird]

Bump

Can I see a show of hands from all who don't miss MacPhail by now???Lol.

[connja]

I think your right about the international presence, but I am getting very concerned about the here and now. The Nationals could make the Orioles pretty irrelevant soon, and that will have implications very far out into the future. My biggest concern about the team I have supported entirely over the last 40 years, is that they may be quickly losing their grip on their own audience. IMO, a poor attempt to improve this Team over this offseason may leave OPACY with a lot of empty seats. And that will not bode well for the future.

maybe this was Angelos plan all along....make sure we suck to be able to say "I told you so" to MLB for letting a team move to Washington.

[El Gordo]

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Can I see a show of hands from all who don't miss MacPhail by now???Lol.

AM never would have traded Guts for Hammel and Lindstrom. He would have waited until the the deadline and traded him for Koji.

[weams]

AM never would have traded Guts for Hammel and Lindstrom. He would have waited until the the non waiver deadline had passed and traded him for Brett Jacobson.

Or Koji.

[El Gordo]

Or Koji.

Whoops, I forgot about Brett.

[BrunoCherrytown]

Bump

Can I see a show of hands from all who don't miss MacPhail by now???Lol.

I miss Tony LaCava.

[DrungoHazewood]

Bump

Can I see a show of hands from all who don't miss MacPhail by now???Lol.

Hand up.

[Bradysburns]

I don't miss MacPhail - at all. I agree that the Guthrie trade was, on its face, just horrible. But I've like almost everything else DD has done.

In fact, if you wipe out the last 10 years of horror, this team actually looks like something you can build from.

We have a young pitching staff with some MLB experience. We have international players in potentially key positions - and young international players. We have youth across the board, actually. We have tons of potential.

This is what I would have HOPED we would've had in 2000 or so - it's what the team should have looked like then.

I think part of the reason it's hard to appreciate the youth, potential and international signings is: we've sucked for SOOOO long. But that wasn't DD's fault. I'm willing to give the guy at least one full season, and one additional offseason, to start judging the direction of the team under his leadership.

Meanwhile, AM had five years and never go tthe team out of last place. I would be willing to bet anyone - were I a betting man - that DD will do better than that, AND he'll build a better farm system and player development program. So no, I don't miss MacPhail.