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Just guessing... because I know no one. LOL I think StrawDog made that bad decision. Common sense dictates that insider information must stay inside if the goal is ever to be reached. I hope no damage was done by this thread.

I don't think any damage was done, because I don't think there was ever any inside information

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Just guessing... because I know no one. LOL I think StrawDog made that bad decision. Common sense dictates that insider information must stay inside if the goal is ever to be reached. I hope no damage was done by this thread.

Yeah. If this was real, it was pretty poor decision to betray AJ's confidence. If it was fake, it was pretty easy to debunk. Not a lot of good could come of it regardless.

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Just guessing... because I know no one. LOL I think StrawDog made that bad decision. Common sense dictates that insider information must stay inside if the goal is ever to be reached. I hope no damage was done by this thread.

Hence my point back on page 1

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El Gordo Hangout Grand Counsel

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This is just such a far out statement that I don't even know where to start. What does relevance have to do with price? IF Fielder adds 4-5 wins to a team that is already a 90 win team, because everything else went right, then he's relevant whether he's overpaid or not. Somewhere in your vast intellect you have equated "relevance" with "good buy"
I pity you for the narrowness of your sentience, if you think this is far out. 4 or 5 W's in a vacuum. Relevance refers to context. In the context of the current O's 4-5 W's either way is irrelevent.
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Capn Vivi Major Leaguer Cup of Coffee

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According to AJ:

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Just seen a fun thing in orioleshangout. Hahaha never did that from what I remember. But ok. That's how y'all work. A Bad decision was made

That doesn't really change much. Jones' thoughts/opinions on the behavior of the FO matter about as much as ours do in the long run.

I do admit I feel embarrassed for StrawDawg. :noidea:

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El Gordo Hangout Grand Counsel

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Like I said, we are having two different discussions. All I said was that a hitter like Fielder would certainly have relevance, especially if our pitching stepped up. That's a pretty simple concept. First, you said he was irrelevant whether the pitching improved or not. Then you said he was only relevant if his production matched his price. Now your are arguing whether it be an albatross of a contract. Let's try this one more time. THIS IS

ALL I SAID. If the Orioles starting pitching blossomed this year, then having a Prince Fielder in the lineup would certainly be relevant. Prince Fielder would be relevant because he would further improve the team. This has nothing to do with whether it's a good idea to sign him. HE WOULD BE RELEVANT!!!!!!!!!

The team would not be competitive even if the SP stepped up, they would be about 80 W's. Add Fielder and they are at 85-86. Only with his contract we couldn't do much else to add the necessary extra 5-6 W's to contend. So with or without him we aren't contending, but without him we have money to spend to get better. His production would be irrelevant to the O's. He would not be irrelevent to the Gnats, or the Rangers, or even MIL.
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Wonder if StrawDawg will be back? Haha.

Trea, this is the guy whose word you took over mine? :rofl:

I'm guessing no. :rofl:

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@Daniel_Delivery hahahaha I've never talked to that guy. Wow. Hilarious. Don't remember saying anything like that. But ok

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I'm guessing no. :rofl:

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@Daniel_Delivery hahahaha I've never talked to that guy. Wow. Hilarious. Don't remember saying anything like that. But ok

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I mean, it's certainly possible that he does know StrawDog and he did say this stuff, but StrawDog shouldn't have posted it anyway. AJ's just going to deny it, and him.

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Yeah. If this was real, it was pretty poor decision to betray AJ's confidence. If it was fake, it was pretty easy to debunk. Not a lot of good could come of it regardless.

Yup. I guess since StrawDogs ideas and arguments have consistently lacked substance he desperately grasped at "insider status" to enhance his rep around here. He chose...poorly.

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The team would not be competitive even if the SP stepped up, they would be about 80 W's. Add Fielder and they are at 85-86. Only with his contract we couldn't do much else to add the necessary extra 5-6 W's to contend. So with or without him we aren't contending, but without him we have money to spend to get better. His production would be irrelevant to the O's. He would not be irrelevent to the Gnats, or the Rangers, or even MIL.

You're making the assumption we'd use the money on a SP next offseason or in some other way to suddenly improve our team. Let's say we sign Jones to an extension and then sign Edwin Jackson. That's Prince Fielder right there. Does that make us a better team than Prince alone would?

I still feel that the best course of action would be to sign Prince and trade Jones. Accumulate as much talent as possible. Signing FA pitchers to expensive deals is just not realistic.

We need cheap talent but we also need consistent production. Fielder, at least for 3-4 years, should continue to provide very solid production from 1B. Everything else is just optimistic.

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I just got wind of this thread. Sorry, but I've been out of touch for a few days. Jones said he doesn't know who this guy is and looking back over the thread, there's little that passes the makes sense test. Since posting knowingly false information is a banable offense, the OP is now banned.

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