Johan Santana topping out at 87mph in simulated game

[xian4]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Johan Santana had an encouraging sim game. Topped out at 87mph</p>— Brittany Ghiroli (@Britt_Ghiroli) <a href="

">May 1, 2014</a></blockquote>

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Johan Santana FB at 86-87 mph for few pitches Monday. Extended spring start on Sat.</p>— Roch Kubatko (@masnRoch) <a href="

">May 1, 2014</a></blockquote>

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[brooks1083]

I would say that's cause for cautious optimism.

[xian4]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Johan Santana starts an extended spring game Sat an then throws a side session Mon. Bundy likely will throw Monday too. Buck will be there</p>— Dan Connolly (@danconnollysun) <a href="

">May 1, 2014</a></blockquote>

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[Rene88]

This is real good news.

Question for the board: Almanazar seems to be going backwards...what is the min number of days he needs to be on the roster this year? I forget.

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[Stotle]

This is real good news.

Question for the board: Almanazar seems to be going backwards...what is the min number of days he needs to be on the roster this year? I forget.

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Minimum number to accomplish what? Not be offered back u to Boston?

[OFFNY]

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FEBRUARY 25th: (Santana Topping out at 81 M.P.H.)

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Let's get him !!!

It's late February, and he's just coming back from surgery/injury. By early July, he could be throwing somewhere in the neighborhood of 90 M.P.H. Send him to AAA-Norfolk for a couple of months, and if he is pitching well down there, bring him up to the major league club in late August or early September.

If he isn't pitching really well in AAA-Norfolk, don't bring him up. Keep him there until the Tides' season is over, and we will have a good chance to have first dibs on him for 2015 (considering the fact that we will have given him a chance at all with our organization in 2014, and that we will have been "playing ball" with his comeback and his career.) Sometimes pitchers coming back from surgery take more than a year to completely rebound (the ones that do rebound.)

Duquette and his people have had excellent judgement for that last couple of years.

In 2012, Duquette signed a pitcher who had previously never pitched in the majors (Miguel Gonzalez), and he wound up being one of our best and most consistent starters over the last 2 seasons (2012 and 2013.)

A few months later, Jamie Moyer was pitching outstanding at AAA-Norfolk. In 3 outings, he threw 16 innings, gave up 1 earned run, walked 0, struck out 16, and had a W.H.I.P. of 0.688. Duquette released him (much to my puzzlement.) The Blue Jays picked Moyer up, he was bombed in two outings for their AAA affiliate, the Blue Jays released him, and I was no longer puzzled about why Duquette released him.

Now, we have a chance to snatch up a former two-time Cy Young Award winner that pitched the only no-hitter in Mets franchise history (1962-Present) on the cheap.

Do it, Dan. You/we have everything to gain, and almost nothing to lose by signing him to a minor league contract.

APRIL 24th (Santana Topping out at 84 M.P.H.)

Two months ago when Santana was topping out at 81 MP.H., I stated that I thought that Santana could VERY GRADUALLY increase his velocity ....... that perhaps by July, he could be in the neighborhood of 90 M.P.H., and that he could be pitching fairly well for AAA-Norfolk by then.

If Santana is sitting at 84 M.P.H. right now (late April), that is very encouraging to me. When it comes to pitchers making comebacks to major surgery on their arms, I am very optimistic BUT ALSO VERY CONSERVATIVE in terms of the time frames that it would take for them to get back completely (or almost completely) to the pitchers that they once were.

Again, I won't be completely disappointed if Santana is pitching decently at the AAA-level by late June/early July, is pitching very well at that (AAA) level by the end of their (the Tides) season, and isn't ready to pitch effectively in the majors until the start of next season ...... assuming that we have a good shot at resigning him when this season (and his current contract) expires.

I think that we do, and I can't imagine that Duquette didn't AT LEAST run it by Santana (the notion of Santana essentially rehabbing this season, and subsequently re-signing with the Orioles in 2015) when we signed him in February.

MAY 1st:

Santana is topping out at 87 M.P.H. :boogie: :clap3:

[brooks1083]

MAY 1st ...... Santana is topping out at 87 M.P.H. :2yay-thumb: :boogie: :clap3:

So at this rate, he should be up to about 105 mph by season's send?

[OFFNY]

So at this rate, he should be up to about 105 mph by season's send?

Yeah, that sounds about right.

Aroldis Chapman, but for 7 or 8 innings.

[Stotle]

Is he up to 87 for any extended period of time? I do not know how many innings he is throwing and where he is generally sitting. Any info on this?

[Hallas]

He averaged about 88 in 2012, so if he can maintain an average of 87 during a start that is pretty good, since he still K'd batters at a good rate in 2012. (22% Ks)

[VeveJones007]

86-89 mph over two innings today.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Johan Santana's velocity in his 1st extended spring outing today was 86-89 mph. He pitched 2 solid innings vs. Twins extended team. <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23orioles&src=hash">#orioles</a></p>— Eduardo A. Encina (@EddieInTheYard) <a href="

">May 5, 2014</a></blockquote>

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[VeveJones007]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Johan Santana is on a five day schedule now so he will throw 3 innings next time out on Saturday in extended spring. <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23orioles&src=hash">#orioles</a></p>— Eduardo A. Encina (@EddieInTheYard) <a href="

">May 5, 2014</a></blockquote>

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Johan Santana threw 28 pitches in 2 innings in extended spring start today. 1 hit 4 strikeouts. Best news is FB 87-89 mph. Again on Saturday</p>— Roch Kubatko (@masnRoch) <a href="

">May 5, 2014</a></blockquote>

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[Redskins Rick]

86-89 mph over two innings today.

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Very Good news

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[Redskins Rick]

When he gets to 92-93 I'll be very excited. Meanwhile, Im skeptical and think its

still a very long shot.

If he has great control, movement and good speed difference between pitches, he can get hitters out at 87-89.

[Norfolk orioles]

When he gets to 92-93 I'll be very excited. Meanwhile, Im skeptical and think its

still a very long shot.

Yawn.

He's right where he should be......no reason to be skeptical right now, be positive and hope for the best.