What would you offer Heyward?

[El Gordo]

Interesting player, coming into age 26 season. Good defense, OBP, modest power, good make up. Could make a good leadoff hitter/RF. 8/130 M?

[clapdiddy]

I would love to have him. I think that offer is probably a little lower than what he's going to get, but I still think it's more than we're willing to pay.

[bpilktree]

Interesting player, coming into age 26 season. Good defense, OBP, modest power, good make up. Could make a good leadoff hitter/RF. 8/130 M?

If we pay him that much for that long I will be so mad. He is a good player but his power has never really showed up and his defense is good with a nice arm but he reminds me so much of Markakis. Both have above average arms, secent speed, and high OBP and good make up but Nick started to see his powere drop and slowly everything else did as well.

[scOtt]

Heyward is a convicted felon in the offseason, isn't he Monty?

Doesn't really say that here...

Well he should be!

[bpilktree]

If we pay him that much for that long I will be so mad. He is a good player but his power has never really showed up and his defense is good with a nice arm but he reminds me so much of Markakis. Both have above average arms, secent speed, and high OBP and good make up but Nick started to see his powere drop and slowly everything else did as well.

His OBP isn't even that great it is good. I know WAR loves the guy but i just don't see anything that is a plus plus part in his game except his arm.

[El Gordo]

I'd be willing to bet Alvarez is the better player over the next 5 years.

If I were a betting man I'd take that bet. Heyward is a year younger and is a solid ML player. Alvarez is in AAA waiting fore a cup of coffee.

[25 Nuggets]

If we pay him that much for that long I will be so mad. He is a good player but his power has never really showed up and his defense is good with a nice arm but he reminds me so much of Markakis. Both have above average arms, secent speed, and high OBP and good make up but Nick started to see his powere drop and slowly everything else did as well.

Yep, pretty much in that same boat. I'd rather sign Parra for 3/$30 and get a really good starting pitcher for 5/$100 (would Cueto take that contract?)

To answer the OP, probably not enough. I'd offer maybe 5 years, $75 mil.

[Babypowder]

:beerchug1:

I'd be willing to bet Alvarez is the better player over the next 5 years.

[Babypowder]

If we pay him that much for that long I will be so mad. He is a good player but his power has never really showed up and his defense is good with a nice arm but he reminds me so much of Markakis. Both have above average arms, secent speed, and high OBP and good make up but Nick started to see his powere drop and slowly everything else did as well.

2013-2015 rWAR

Heyward: 13.7

Markakis: 3.7

Yup, pretty close.

[Babypowder]

If I were a betting man I'd take that bet. Heyward is a year younger and is a solid ML player. Alvarez is in AAA waiting fore a cup of coffee.

Not to mention that Alvarez isn't tearing up AAA, has horrendous discipline, and his defense outside of his arm is in question by the organization.

Yeah, it's a crazy opinion.

[25 Nuggets]

2013-2015 rWAR

Heyward: 13.7

Markakis: 3.7

Yup, pretty close.

Defensive metrics don't like Markakis for whatever reason. They LOVE Heyward.

[Babypowder]

Defensive metrics don't like Markakis for whatever reason. They LOVE Heyward.

Likely because he runs like he is pulling a parachute behind him and his range is nonexistent.

[Creamsicle]

Pretty sure I would offer Hayworth A LOT

[bpilktree]

2013-2015 rWAR

Heyward: 13.7

Markakis: 3.7

Yup, pretty close.

I was looking more at Markakis right before we signed his contract extension here.

[MDK02]

I've always thought Heyward was a bit overrated, he hasn't lived up to the hype of his rookie season..

I will say, his power numbers are pretty underwhelming when you consider his size.