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    • Whether it is Juan Soto, Corey Seager or Yordan Alvarez, I think building a pen for the AL playoffs the Cionel guy will win tiebreaks over the Baumann guy this early. I hope they really get crowded out with multiple strong performers but if July only brings 1 fancy thing, Cionel and Coulombe can start preparing. If the big 3 starters hold together, even Means and Irvin get smushed to that role.
    • I wasn't even thinking of you, you little piece of trash.  You're insignificant on this board.  Nobody thinks about you or cares what you have to say.   I was referring to Sports Guys little laughing emoticon on the OP, which is passive aggressive, and I thought funny, because the OP was objectively accurate. GFY.
    • Hyde is saying it will be a six man rotation soon so arguably Irvin doesn't count. DFA Perez would have made it 5/2 among the "permanent" bullpen guys. Plus Perez has stretches when he is lights out. If he finds it at the right time he could be a weapon in October. 
    • Apparently, Cionel’s dad hasn’t entered Roy’s inner buddy circle.
    • While Adley is a valid data point, he had extenuating circumstances, and I still think Gunnar doesn't really qualify.  If you shifted Gunnar's stats from August/September 2022 to April 2023 and shifted the rest of his stats forward, then his slump would look like any old midseason slump.  A lot of players go through months where they OPS less than .700.  A lot of starters, especially shortstops struggle to have months where they OPS more than .700.  It doesn't seem noteworthy or indicative of rookie lumps.  If you combine his September 2022 stats with his April 2023 stats he was still an above-average hitter playing good defense at a premium defensive position.  Even during his slump, he was an overall average-player because of his position and defense, and he was 21.  A guy who I would more associate with rookie lumps would be Anthony Volpe; Gunnar's wRC+ in April was better than Volpe's full-season wRC+.
    • I’d say that would surprise me for a few  reasons.  First, it sounds like he’s already low in the defensive spectrum.  Sure, we can think of 1 first rounder (Kjerstad) who fit that bill but only 1.   Second, Law said White tends to chase out of the zone.  The O’s are very big on chase rates.   Third, I believe he’s a RH hitter.   Strike 3.
    • Meh, I think they’re both pretty replaceable but still trust Perez more. Since the beginning of last year, Perez has a 3.82 ERA, 3.80 FIP, 4.53 xFIP, and has been worth 0.5 WAR in 61.1 innings. Baumann has a 3.69 ERA, 4.41 FIP, 4.77 xFIP, and has been worth 0 WAR in 83 innings.  I do agree that Baumann being able to go multiple innings is beneficial, but it seemed like half the time they wanted to use him for multiple innings, he couldn’t throw strikes and then his outing ended early. Cionel’s 2022-2023 numbers definitely saved him (2.43 ERA), but he could easily be the next guy dropped from the BP.
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