A Few Questions About Some Former Orioles

[NCRaven]

2 minutes ago, Enjoy Terror said:

I think you’re being harsh on Adam, personally. He’ll get a four year deal somewhere.

No way a team gives a 33 year old in decline a four-year deal.  Especially if the Orioles aren't bidding against themselves anymore.

[wildbillhiccup]

1 minute ago, Enjoy Terror said:

I think you’re being harsh on Adam, personally. He’ll get a four year deal somewhere.

Ok, they're being overly pessimistic and you're being overly optimistic. No one is signing Jones to a four year deal. He'll get a two year deal or maybe a three year deal if everything falls perfectly in his favor. Spotrac has him listed as the fifth best free agent OF, which is probably a bit optimistic, but it's not that far off. I mean, I'd probably take him over M.Gonzalez (who they have ranked higher) and after AJ Pollock (who they have ranked lower). 

 

PLAYER (36)	POS.	AGE	TEAM	H	RBI	HR	AVG	OPS	IP	ERA	W	SV	2018 SALARY	MARKET VALUE (AAV)
Bryce Harper	CF	26	WSH	137	100	34	.249	.889					$21,725,000	$31,053,237
Michael Brantley	LF	32	CLE	176	76	17	.309	.832					$12,000,000	$19,295,073
Andrew McCutchen	RF	32	NYY	145	65	20	.255	.792					$14,750,000	$18,988,416
Marwin Gonzalez	LF	30	HOU	121	68	16	.247	.733					$5,125,000	$17,942,070
Adam Jones	CF	33	BAL	163	63	15	.281	.732					$17,333,333	$16,020,959
Nick Markakis	RF	35	ATL	185	93	14	.297	.806					$11,050,000	$14,995,660
A.J. Pollock	CF	31	ARI	106	65	21	.257	.800					$7,750,000	$11,003,030
Hunter Pence	RF	36	SF	53	24	4	.226	.590					$18,500,000	-
Brett Gardner	LF	35	NYY	125	45	12	.236	.690					$11,500,000	-
Carlos Gonzalez	RF	33	COL	128	64	16	.276	.796					$8,000,000	-
Lonnie Chisenhall	RF	30	CLE	27	9	1	.321	.846					$5,587,500	-
Matt Joyce	LF	34	OAK	43	15	7	.208	.675					$6,000,000	-
Curtis Granderson	LF	38	MIL	83	38	13	.242	.782					$5,000,000	-
Carlos Gomez	RF	33	TB	75	32	9	.208	.634	0.3				$4,400,000	-
Cameron Maybin	RF	32	SEA	85	28	4	.249	.662					$3,250,000	-
Jon Jay	RF	34	ARI	141	40	3	.268	.677					$4,500,000	-
Colby Rasmus	LF	32	BAL	6	1	1	.133	.426					$3,000,000	-
Chris Young	RF	35	LAA	19	13	6	.168	.615					$2,000,000	-
Rajai Davis	CF	38	CLE	44	6	1	.224	.559					$1,750,000	-
Melky Cabrera	LF	34	CLE	70	39	6	.280	.755					$1,250,000	-
Gregor Blanco	RF	35	SF	41	12	2	.217	.579					$1,000,000	-
Matt Szczur	CF	29	SD	14	6	1	.187	.532					$950,000	-
Shane Robinson	CF	34	NYY	7	2	1	.143	.432					$950,000	-
J.B. Shuck	LF	32	MIA	25	4		.192	.486					$750,000	-
Eric Young Jr.	CF	34	LAA	22	8	1	.202	.551					$545,000	-
Matt Holliday	OF	39	COL										$545,000	-
Jose Bautista	RF	38	PHI	66	48	13	.203	.726					$545,000	-
Austin Jackson	CF	32	NYM	85	32	3	.245	.625					$545,000	-
Clay Rapada	RF	38	SF										-	-
Emilio Bonifacio	CF	34	MIL										-	-
Jason Bourgeois	LF	37	CHW										-	-
Ben Revere	CF	31	LAA										-	-
Peter Bourjos	RF	32	SF	9	4	1	.205	.603					-	-
Mike Baxter	LF	34	SEA										-	-
Jordan Schafer	CF	32	SF										-	-
Mike McCoy	RF	38	SD										-	-

[Redskins Rick]

6 minutes ago, Enjoy Terror said:

I think you’re being harsh on Adam, personally. He’ll get a four year deal somewhere.

He might get a 4 year deal, there is a shortage of COF, but I dont know, really.

I guess we shall see.

For the record, I hope he does, I respect the guy, and appreciate his time here. He had a very good run here.

[wildbillhiccup]

29 minutes ago, terphoopsfan said:

I think AJ gets at least a 2yr deal between 6-8 mil per year. While he may not be the CF we remember, he'll make a contribution somewhere, especially if he can come to the rationalization he's a COF or Platoon RF at this stage of his career.

Ding ding ding. We have a winner. 

[wildbillhiccup]

Just now, Redskins Rick said:

He might get a 4 year deal, there is a shortage of COF, but I dont know, really.

I guess we shall see.

For the record, I hope he does, I respect the guy, and appreciate his time here. He had a very good run here.

No one is signing him to play CF. 

[Redskins Rick]

4 minutes ago, wildbillhiccup said:

No one is signing him to play CF. 

Never in my wildest dreams did I say that.

I suspect he could still fill in as a CF, but I dont see him as a starting CF, which is why I said COF.

[Moose Milligan]

Jones gets an ST invite somewhere.  

[Ripken]

Jones will get signed.  He'll be a (semi)regular player in 2019 for a MLB team.

[El Gordo]

Don't be surprised if he ends up back here. 2 years and an option.

[terphoopsfan]

16 minutes ago, El Gordo said:

Don't be surprised if he ends up back here. 2 years and an option.

I wouldn't be surprised because we have a history of doing dumb with Mr. Angelos & Sons. The flip side is we could be hopefully using that $$$ for analytics, etc instead of a .280 COF for the next 2 90+ losing seasons. If we're being honest, there's no need for him to finish out his career like that here unless it's just a money grab for him at the end. 

[backwardsk]

I feel like I remember reading something about Flaherty going into coaching next season.

Jones will get a multi year deal.

Buck may take a year off before returning to the booth.  

[El Gordo]

1 hour ago, terphoopsfan said:

I wouldn't be surprised because we have a history of doing dumb with Mr. Angelos & Sons. The flip side is we could be hopefully using that $$$ for analytics, etc instead of a .280 COF for the next 2 90+ losing seasons. If we're being honest, there's no need for him to finish out his career like that here unless it's just a money grab for him at the end. 

I don't recommend it, but I can see a scenario where AJ doesn't get much in the way of FA offers and O's don't see a ML ready RF in house, so they sign Jones for a couple more years. Vet leader fan fav etc.

[interloper]

3 hours ago, Redskins Rick said:

I thnk Buck retires to a part time gig somewhere, and by his choosing.

I dont see much of a market for Adam, and it wont not surprise me to see him retire out.

Ryan, might make a roster somewhere as a cheap and capable utility infielder, heck, he could even come back here, since they need 25 players and most spots are sitting open with question marks. Yes, I know, bring in the youngsters and throw them to the wind, but there are only so many of them.

You have lost your damn mind.

[interloper]

That said, Jones will be lucky to get any more than 1 year. He'll be a mostly full-time RFer for someone who needs a RH bat.

[Can_of_corn]

3 minutes ago, El Gordo said:

I don't recommend it, but I can see a scenario where AJ doesn't get much in the way of FA offers and O's don't see a ML ready RF in house, so they sign Jones for a couple more years. Vet leader fan fav etc.

If that happens it means whomever they brought in to be president doesn't have the ultimate decision making authority.

No way a team like the 2019 Orioles needs an Adam Jones.