Chris Davis 2019 and beyond

[Can_of_corn]

4 minutes ago, weams said:

Thinking that Davis could be coerced into a fake injury report is the wacky idea here. Not Boras making a stand for player rights. 

I also do not think it is likely.

[LookinUp]

40 minutes ago, weams said:

Thinking that Davis could be coerced into a fake injury report is the wacky idea here. Not Boras making a stand for player rights. 

Every player has aches and pains. The DL gets used all the time for marginal issues. Hell, the Os could declare his problems mental (thinking attention issues) and put him on the DL. It would probably be correct, or at least defensible.

The more important part is having a plan to identify and approach the issue. I would rather not have him in the middle of a swing rebuild while on the 25 man roster, but that’s probably exactly what will happen.

[Can_of_corn]

3 minutes ago, LookinUp said:

Every player has aches and pains. The DL gets used all the time for marginal issues. Hell, the Os could declare his problems mental (thinking attention issues) and put him on the DL. It would probably be correct, or at least defensible.

The more important part is having a plan to identify and approach the issue. I would rather not have him in the middle of a swing rebuild while on the 25 man roster, but that’s probably exactly what will happen.

Marginal issue = 3 months on the DL?

[wildcard]

1 hour ago, LookinUp said:

Really? I think Davis would accept that given the fact he knows he’s stealing money at this point, particularly if he believes in a plan to rebuild his swing. I’m not talking about some demeaning roster move. I’m talking about creating and executing a plan aimed at saving the guy’s career.

I would think Elias' people (who ever they are) will start to work with Davis after the 1st of the year.   That is three months to work to chance his approach, swing, talk to him about analytics or whatever else they decide to try.   Then in April it probably will be time to see if those things work in the majors.

I think a phantom injury will not be some that Davis or his agent or the union will want.   If there is a real injury that is something different.

[Frobby]

4 minutes ago, wildcard said:

I would think Elias' people (who ever they are) will start to work with Davis after the 1st of the year.   That is three months to work to chance his approach, swing, talk to him about analytics or whatever else they decide to try.   Then in April it probably will be time to see if those things work in the majors.

I think a phantom injury will not be some that Davis or his agent or the union will want.   If there is a real injury that is something different.

Elias: “Our analytics tell us that if a pitch is in the strike and you don’t swing, it’s likely to be called a strike.    Also, if you swing at a pitch and miss it, that also will be called a strike.”

Davis:  “Oooooohhhhh, so that’s what I’ve been doing wrong!”

Problem solved!

[MachoMachadoMan]

1 minute ago, Frobby said:

Elias: “Our analytics tell us that if a pitch is in the strike and you don’t swing, it’s likely to be called a strike.    Also, if you swing at a pitch and miss it, that also will be called a strike.”

Davis:  “Oooooohhhhh, so that’s what I’ve been doing wrong!”

Problem solved!

Yes, this is exaggerating, but I do wonder what the mindset is for many of the guys carrying over when it comes to analytics. We heard Britton rave about what he received in New York, but that was a winning club. It's easier to buy in to a new way of doing your job when the team around you is winning. 

Even with great data next year, the team is going to stink. I don't think there is any assurance that Davis or any other player leftover is going to immediately embrace analytics. If they don't, they'll be gone quickly. But it still takes time to move them out.  

[Going Underground]

Stop picking on him. At least he hosted the Orioles Christmas party.

 

Davis and his wife, Jill, helped host the 40th annual Orioles Reach Holiday Party at Dave and Busters at Arundel Mills mall, bringing some Christmas cheer to a large group of students from the Commodore John Rodgers School in Southeast Baltimore.

Though Davis has had no contact with new general manager Mike Elias since the new chief of baseball operations was hired, he said that the credentials of the former Houston Astros executive speak for themselves.

 

 

It was also encouraging for Davis to hear Elias’ positive comments about the need to do everything possible to help him turn his career — which includes two major league home run titles — back in the right direction.

“Absolutely,’’ Davis said. “In my own eyes, I feel I’m a big part of this and I know for us to be successful as a team, it starts with me. That’s offense, defense, base running, my presence in the clubhouse, leadership on and off the field. I understand that responsibility and I accept that fully.

That’s offense, defense, base running, my presence in the clubhouse, leadership on and off the field. I understand that responsibility and I accept that fully.

https://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/schmuck-blog/bs-sp-chris-davis-hoping-to-reignite-his-career-20181211-story.html

[weams]

I am glad they were nice to the children. 

[InsideCoroner]

If the problem with Davis is mental more than anything mechanical (and the jury is out on that), I tend to think the rebuild might be exactly what he needs. It takes a lot of pressure off his shoulders if we’re not even remotely expected to be competitive. Maybe he can loosen up and not overthink everything. You’re going to lose 100 games. Just enjoy playing baseball.

[Can_of_corn]

5 minutes ago, InsideCoroner said:

If the problem with Davis is mental more than anything mechanical (and the jury is out on that), I tend to think the rebuild might be exactly what he needs. It takes a lot of pressure off his shoulders if we’re not even remotely expected to be competitive. Maybe he can loosen up and not overthink everything. You’re going to lose 100 games. Just enjoy playing baseball.

His rapidly declining foot speed and extreme difficulty handling velocity to point a substantial portion of the issue being physical.

[Frobby]

31 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

His rapidly declining foot speed and extreme difficulty handling velocity to point a substantial portion of the issue being physical.

I concur, but I’ll leave it to the professionals to judge that and to consider if there is anything that can be done to compensate.  

[SteveA]

On 12/5/2018 at 10:22 PM, higgybaby said:

I'm sorry but If he's completely changed his approach at the plate he's not going to put it out there for the public and the opposing pitchers to know what those changes are. 

LOL.   Yeah, he's our secret weapon, we have to keep him hidden!   Don't want those other teams to get wind of the miraculous transformation.

Honestly, if he has done something huge to change his approach, wouldn't it be obvious to scouts and observers after about 10 games in Sarasota?   Not results, but an altered stance or approach at the plate?

[higgybaby]

Just now, SteveA said:

LOL.   Yeah, he's our secret weapon, we have to keep him hidden!   Don't want those other teams to get wind of the miraculous transformation.

Honestly, if he has done something huge to change his approach, wouldn't it be obvious to scouts and observers after about 10 games in Sarasota?   Not results, but an altered stance or approach at the plate?

Keep on believing that players like to broadcast their approach to opposing teams and pitchers.   

[weams]

On 12/5/2018 at 11:38 PM, 24fps said:

Most people aren't looking for details, just confirmation that he's working as hard as he can to fix what's wrong.  

An instagram of him flexing. Something. 

[TonySoprano]

This must have been an interesting conversation.