The second guessing Hyde thread.

[Spy Fox]

I don't think Hyde had any great options there but I'll say I've seen enough of Gillaspie and would much rather see Krehbiel or Vespi up here. 

[RZNJ]

4 minutes ago, sportsfan8703 said:

We still got to the point where we’re up by 1 in the 10th for a save situation.

In reality though, we were on our 5th reliever and Bautista was unavailable. Who were we going to bring in over Gilaspie?  
 

Remember when Hyde brought in Stevie Wilkerson over Tanner Scott in a save Situation?  Lol. Hilarious. 

You didn’t need to bring anyone in.  Cano looked great, even better than on Friday, and breezed through the 9th on 11 pitches after throwing 25 on Friday.  

[sportsfan8703]

1 minute ago, RZNJ said:

You didn’t need to bring anyone in.  Cano looked great, even better than on Friday, and breezed through the 9th on 11 pitches after throwing 25 on Friday.  

This is true, but maybe Hyde knew something we didn’t. But yes… looking at it, it does seem like Hyde was being a slave to Gilaspie being our backup closer. 

Cano can’t become Jorge Lopez if we don’t let him try. 

[RZNJ]

3 minutes ago, sportsfan8703 said:

This is true, but maybe Hyde knew something we didn’t. But yes… looking at it, it does seem like Hyde was being a slave to Gilaspie being our backup closer. 

Cano can’t become Jorge Lopez if we don’t let him try. 

I can’t recall Gillaspie ever having a clean inning.  Maybe he becomes something but I had no confidence in him keeping that ghost runner from coming in that inning.   

[waroriole]

Gillaspie has no business being on the team. That’s on Elias, not Hyde. 

[Frobby]

10 minutes ago, sportsfan8703 said:

This is true, but maybe Hyde knew something we didn’t. But yes… looking at it, it does seem like Hyde was being a slave to Gilaspie being our backup closer. 

Cano can’t become Jorge Lopez if we don’t let him try. 

It is not often you see any manager let a reliever throw multiple innings two days in a row.  

[RZNJ]

9 minutes ago, Frobby said:

It is not often you see any manager let a reliever throw multiple innings two days in a row.  

A fair point but under the circumstances I think it made perfect sense.

[Frobby]

6 minutes ago, RZNJ said:

A fair point but under the circumstances I think it made perfect sense.

I wouldn’t have argued against it, but I think Hyde is pretty cautious when it comes to how he handles his relievers.  

[RZNJ]

I would have brought Coulombe to start the 8th instead of Voth.  It worked out.  The whole inning changed on the first hitter, Vaughn.  3-1 count, high cutter above the strike zone called a strike and then caught him looking at an actual strike on the next pitch.  

[AnythingO's]

10 hours ago, sportsfan8703 said:

Cano can’t become Jorge Lopez if we don’t let him try. 

Well, Bautista couldn't become the MOUNTAIN until we let him try

[Billy F-Face3]

Hyde has balls. There's been times he was going to the bullpen for a certain guy (like Voth or Cano recently, or Hall a few times last season) when I was thinking "Bad idea" and felt pessimistic. But then those guys come out and had a solid outting getting batters out.

[RZNJ]

Ok. You’re down 7-0.  Do you pitch one of your best relievers 2 2/3 innings and burn him for the next two nights or do you try to get 6.2 innings from Voth, Akins, and Perez.  That’s not giving up.  That’s being smart.

[Frobby]

4 minutes ago, RZNJ said:

Ok. You’re down 7-0.  Do you pitch one of your best relievers 2 2/3 innings and burn him for the next two nights or do you try to get 6.2 innings from Voth, Akins, and Perez.  That’s not giving up.  That’s being smart.

Smart would have been pulling Bradish 2 batters earlier.  

[RZNJ]

6 minutes ago, Frobby said:

Smart would have been pulling Bradish 2 batters earlier.  

Another great point.  He wants to protect his bullpen arms but lets his 26 year old starter throw 81 pitches in 2.1 innings.  That’s abuse.

[sportsfan8703]

7 minutes ago, RZNJ said:

Another great point.  He wants to protect his bullpen arms but lets his 26 year old starter throw 81 pitches in 2.1 innings.  That’s abuse.

Bradish shouldn’t have came back out after the 40 pitch 2nd inning.