Orioles trade discussion thread

[SteveA]

Schwarber to Red Sox.

[ThomasTomasz]

1 hour ago, Sports Guy said:

Nats got the 1 and 2 prospects in the Dodgers organization, according to MLB.com, as part of the trade.

Using our deal for Machado as a barometer, I think it’s a bad deal for the Nationals.  They should have received Lux or Gonsolin in this deal.  Carrillo looks like a relief guy, and the outfielder is likely an org guy.  So two top 50 prospects for 1.5 years of a 5-6 fWAR SS and a top 5 MLB starter as a rental…………definitely a miss by Rizzo. 

[ThomasTomasz]

1 hour ago, OsFanSinceThe80s said:

O'Dowd is a wizard or someone tipped him off that the Dodgers were looking to acquire Scherzer and Turner. 

 

All the time ODowd was the GM in Colorado undoubtably gave him a source or two connected to the Dodgers.  

[waynebug]

Fry should bring back more than Givens, shouldn't he ?  Controlled through 2024 I believe.  To a team needing a lefty reliever.

By the way, our old Rule 5 friend Nestor Cortes has become a solid reliever for the Yanks.  They're eat with lefty relievers although Britton must be injured.

[OsFanSinceThe80s]

21 minutes ago, SteveA said:

Schwarber to Red Sox.

Not that it was likely, but that probably scratches any chance of Trey getting traded to the Red Sox. 

[OsFanSinceThe80s]

Nationals are apparently having an "everything must go" sale. 

 

[Sports Guy]

 

[Philip]

Well the Mariners don’t need our levers anymore, they lost one of the suspension but just acquired two others

[Nite]

Looking like the last one at the dance is the Phillies.

[JimGinSP]

1 hour ago, OsFanSinceThe80s said:

Nationals are apparently having an "everything must go" sale. 

 

Considering the Nats COVID issues this week they might be considered a super spreader! 

[bpilktree]

4 hours ago, Moose Milligan said:

I would like to slam them hard, too.  But they're an incredibly well run franchise.  Gotta tip the hat to them, they scout, draft, int'l sign and develop better than anyone.  And they pony up to 

2 hours ago, JimGinSP said:

Considering the Nats COVID issues this week they might be considered a super spreader! 

 

[bpilktree]

The return on relievers hasn’t been as strong as past years.  The Padres gave up a reliever and one lottery ticket for Hudson.

[Roll Tide]

From an Astro’s article 

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2. Paul Fry

From MLB Trade Rumors:

43. Paul Fry, LHP, Orioles: Fry has quietly stepped up as a solid lefty in the Baltimore ’pen. He isn’t a well-known name, which happens when you’re throwing late innings on a last-place club, but Fry carries a 3.24 ERA dating back to last year. His 31.4 percent strikeout rate is a career-high. Fry won’t be arb-eligible until this winter and is controllable through 2024.

• 2021 Statistics: 4-3, 3.49 ERA, 38.2 IP, 12.57 K/9, 4.42 BB/9, 2.99 xERA, 2.15 FIP, 3.07 xFIP
• Paul Fry’s Baseball Savant Page

Paul Fry is probably a lot more palatable of a trade candidate than Bard is, but would obviously come with a much higher acquisition cost, as the Orioles front office is certainly a more analytically advanced organization. But a 29 year old lefty with club control that fits in the budget and is rumored to be available is definitely worth exploring. 

His profile is very different than Bard’s,. His 4-seamer clocks in at a 92.9 mph average, but with strong spin rates given the velocity. He rounds out his arsenal with a slider and a very rare change-up. He does not possess the raw unbridled stuff that Bard has, but his arsenal has already been shaped a lot more towards Strom’s methodologies, given the ex-Astros in the Orioles brain trust and pitching departments. A look at Fry’s underlying statistics show a much more valuable player than the traditional ones. MLB Trade Rumors notes the 3.24 ERA going back to last year, but the advanced stats actually show him even a tick better than that.

https://www.crawfishboxes.com/2021/7/29/22599673/yimi-garcia-and-3-other-relief-pitching-value-trade-targets

[Roll Tide]

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Baltimore’s Paul Fry is a popular name ahead of the deadline, thanks in part to his impressive 2.15 FIP and 33% strikeout rate, largely owing to the quality of his slider. Among the names tabbed above by Feinsand, only Kimbrel has a better FIP (1.08), and only Kimbrel and Hudson have better strikeout rates (46.7% for Kimbrel, 37.8% for Hudson). In other words, Fry might be expensive. 

Using the tool, it can be easy to visualize player comps and understand which names might not have the best ERA but may have the right stuff, or to help understand if a pitcher’s stuff is meaningfully better than what’s already in house. While King makes hisnhay with his hard sinker, Fry features a slider that has more two-plane movement than either King or Sherriff, and at 5 mph higher velocity.

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https://www.draysbay.com/2021/7/29/22599780/pete-fairbanks-injury-and-what-it-means-for-the-rays-trade-deadline-plans

[Roll Tide]

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4. How many relievers will be traded on Friday?
A lot of them. As of Thursday night, we had already seen more than a dozen relievers change uniforms in recent weeks, and at least a dozen more could be traded on Friday alone.

Among the notable names to move this week were Diego Castillo, Ryan Tepera, Brad Hand, Hudson and Kendall Graveman, though the biggest -- Craig Kimbrel -- had yet to be dealt as of Thursday night. That should change on Friday, as the Cubs -- who have already unloaded a number of players -- will turn their attention to Kimbrel, Bryant and starter Zach Davies.

Relievers are the most coveted players this close to the Trade Deadline, especially when the starting pitcher market is as underwhelming as it is this year. Kimbrel could bring back a bigger return than any other player moved on Friday, though there are plenty of alternatives -- Richard Rodríguez, Ian Kennedy, Tanner Scott, Hansel Robles, José Cisnero and possibly Raisel Iglesias, just to name a handful -- for teams seeking bullpen upgrades for the stretch run.

https://www.mlb.com/news/questions-for-mlb-trade-deadline-day-2021