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6 minutes ago, MurphDogg said:

Rutschman hadn't played in a couple months and was in the GCL for a week. Kjerstad has multiple minicamps and spring training. It is a different calculus. Every minor leaguer missed the 2020 season and all the college bats from the 2020 draft didn't start 2021 in low-A.

OK...let me get this right.

The 1-1 pick in the draft needs to start in the GCL after a six week layoff but Kjerstad is good with skipping multiple levels after missing a season and a half.

 

Boy folks just don't want to admit that it was nonsense to start Rutschman in the GCL.

Crazy.

It's OK to admit it was BS to start him at that low a level.

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I'll add my two cents. I don't think AR NEEDED to start in the GCL but I don't think that it was a bad decision either. I think it had more to do with the fact that the GCL was actually playing games

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The big news here was definitely the favorable report on Kjerstad: “Cowser and Kjerstad are expected to stay through both camps. It’s a significant development with Kjerstad, who hasn’t appeared

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https://www.masnsports.com/school-of-roch/2022/01/rutschman-kjerstad-cowser-headline-next-minicamp-and-other-notes.html   Much more significant than the current one and good news about Kjerstad

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1 hour ago, Can_of_corn said:

OK...let me get this right.

The 1-1 pick in the draft needs to start in the GCL after a six week layoff but Kjerstad is good with skipping multiple levels after missing a season and a half.

 

Boy folks just don't want to admit that it was nonsense to start Rutschman in the GCL.

Crazy.

It's OK to admit it was BS to start him at that low a level.

I don't remember anyone saying it was necessary to start Adley at that level.

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5 minutes ago, MurphDogg said:

I don't remember anyone saying it was necessary to start Adley at that level.

I'm not about to go trying to dig up quotes but yea, I remember folks talking about how he had to earn promotions and so on and so forth.  Lots of folks were fine with him starting at that low a level. 

 

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9 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

I'm not about to go trying to dig up quotes but yea, I remember folks talking about how he had to earn promotions and so on and so forth.  Lots of folks were fine with him starting at that low a level. 

 

No one should have been fine with that.

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9 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

I'm not about to go trying to dig up quotes but yea, I remember folks talking about how he had to earn promotions and so on and so forth.  Lots of folks were fine with him starting at that low a level. 

 

Pretty sure most people thought it was a "parading around of their new toy".  Neither here nor there, but I dont recall the overwhelming census being he needed to go there.

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10 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

I'm not about to go trying to dig up quotes but yea, I remember folks talking about how he had to earn promotions and so on and so forth.  Lots of folks were fine with him starting at that low a level. 

 

My guess is in a normal year, people might have felt same about Kjerstad...But he will be what? 23/24 this year? A little older than Adley's 21 at FCL.  Plus starting Adley at FCL after draft and college season vs holding Kjerstad back in EXST for 3 months...would upset folks my guess. 

 

So on another note, am I to understand Minor League ST will start on time? In like March?

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1 minute ago, sevastras said:

Pretty sure most people thought it was a "parading around of their new toy".  Neither here nor there, but I dont recall the overwhelming census being he needed to go there.

I think it is fairer to say that posters came up with reasons to support what Elias decided to do.  I'm sure if he had started at a higher level no one would have been suggesting that he should have started in the GCL.

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2 minutes ago, jarman86 said:

My guess is in a normal year, people might have felt same about Kjerstad...But he will be what? 23/24 this year? A little older than Adley's 21 at FCL.  Plus starting Adley at FCL after draft and college season vs holding Kjerstad back in EXST for 3 months...would upset folks my guess. 

 

So on another note, am I to understand Minor League ST will start on time? In like March?

Yes guys not on the 40 man shouldn't be delayed.

Might be interesting to see how AAA rosters shake out.

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1 hour ago, Can_of_corn said:

OK...let me get this right.

The 1-1 pick in the draft needs to start in the GCL after a six week layoff but Kjerstad is good with skipping multiple levels after missing a season and a half.

 

Boy folks just don't want to admit that it was nonsense to start Rutschman in the GCL.

Crazy.

It's OK to admit it was BS to start him at that low a level.

I feel like just ignoring this but Kjerstad is having these mini camps and then he'll be in actual games in minor league spring training.    How long a layoff did Rutschman have between his last college game and his first professional game.    Having said that, I agree that the GCL (FCL) was a little surprising to me as a starting point.   Also, when did the mono factor in?

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2 minutes ago, RZNJ said:

I feel like just ignoring this but Kjerstad is having these mini camps and then he'll be in actual games in minor league spring training.    How long a layoff did Rutschman have between his last college game and his first professional game.    Having said that, I agree that the GCL (FCL) was a little surprising to me as a starting point.   Also, when did the mono factor in?

Six weeks and he was in Florida for a couple of weeks before his first game.

 

I'm fully on board with starting Kjerstad at a higher level if he's full speed physically.

 

 

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2 hours ago, Can_of_corn said:

OK...let me get this right.

The 1-1 pick in the draft needs to start in the GCL after a six week layoff but Kjerstad is good with skipping multiple levels after missing a season and a half.

 

Boy folks just don't want to admit that it was nonsense to start Rutschman in the GCL.

Crazy.

It's OK to admit it was BS to start him at that low a level.

There was no reason to start him THAT low, but it still didn't really affect his timeline. It was always going to be this year I think, especially after the 2020 non-season. 

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5 minutes ago, interloper said:

There was no reason to start him THAT low, but it still didn't really affect his timeline. It was always going to be this year I think, especially after the 2020 non-season. 

My only guess for starting Adley in GCL/FCL was to evaluate him physically. Kid caught a lot of games in college and CWS. Much easier to assess how he is doing on the backfields in Sarasota in just above meaningless games and shut him down vs. in Aberdeen/Delmarva where crowds were filing in to see the wunderkind (thanks Ted Lasso). This is just a guess, as catching is right there/above/behind pitching in physically demanding.  

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1 hour ago, Can_of_corn said:

I think it is fairer to say that posters came up with reasons to support what Elias decided to do.  I'm sure if he had started at a higher level no one would have been suggesting that he should have started in the GCL.

Most people probably thought it was no big deal. Nothing to complain about.  Then, of course .......

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3 hours ago, Can_of_corn said:

OK...let me get this right.

The 1-1 pick in the draft needs to start in the GCL after a six week layoff but Kjerstad is good with skipping multiple levels after missing a season and a half.

 

Boy folks just don't want to admit that it was nonsense to start Rutschman in the GCL.

Crazy.

It's OK to admit it was BS to start him at that low a level.

I think it’s been clearly established that they use GCL as an orientation to the organization. Cowser started there this year. 

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