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22 minutes ago, Hallas said:

 

I'm normally wary about extensions for catchers because of injury risk, but I feel like he could switch positions in about 5-6 years and still have a decent career elsewhere.  He's athletic enough to play somewhere other than DH and 1B, and his bat plays anywhere on the diamond.  As long as he can stay injury free while catching I'm looking to sign him for as long as 8-9 years.

Why not Adley as 1b and backup catcher.  Come playoff time, Adley is starting catcher.  Want to get sick?  Mountcastle's OBP is .297.  There is no reason a power hitting 1 B should have a .297 OBP.  

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https://www.mlb.com/news/adley-rutschman-top-all-around-catcher

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This portion of the article stood out to me:

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It definitely says something that Adley looks like a vastly better player than a player who had a 5.7 and 4.5 WAR season at the same position.  And I agree - he does.   I just can't believe

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11 minutes ago, OriolesMagic83 said:

Why not Adley as 1b and backup catcher.  Come playoff time, Adley is starting catcher.  Want to get sick?  Mountcastle's OBP is .297.  There is no reason a power hitting 1 B should have a .297 OBP.  

Sure there is, it’s called not having command of the strike zone as a hitter. Buck had it right initially when he scolded RM’s plate discipline. He needs to be patient and in turn he’ll get better pitches to hit. That may never happen.

It’s one reason why I floated the idea of keeping Mancini at 1B, not as a DH and trading the power hitting (yeah, not lately) Mountcastle. I still like him and while he’s improved at 1B defensively, it’s not positionally significant insofar as just about anyone can be taught to play 1B. It’s easy….cue the Moneyball clip of Bean and Washington talking with Hatteberg. And cue @Can of Corn dragging me for even contemplating such an action.

AR is better than RM, but I swear I love Mountcastle!

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1 hour ago, OriolesMagic83 said:

Why not Adley as 1b and backup catcher.  Come playoff time, Adley is starting catcher.  Want to get sick?  Mountcastle's OBP is .297.  There is no reason a power hitting 1 B should have a .297 OBP.  

That's honestly a waste of his talents right now. Not sure we want to put a guy that has all the skills to be a plus defender at C at first base.  If anything I'd put him at 3rd or RF.  He's pretty athletic and can handle those positions.

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6 hours ago, Hallas said:

That's honestly a waste of his talents right now. Not sure we want to put a guy that has all the skills to be a plus defender at C at first base.  If anything I'd put him at 3rd or RF.  He's pretty athletic and can handle those positions.

I'm not interested in adding learning to play right field or third base to his plate.

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11 hours ago, OriolesMagic83 said:

Why not Adley as 1b and backup catcher.  Come playoff time, Adley is starting catcher.  Want to get sick?  Mountcastle's OBP is .297.  There is no reason a power hitting 1 B should have a .297 OBP.  

It’s probably better to let him rest as the DH when he’s not catching. If Mountcastle continues to hit so poorly, just rotate Santander/Stowers/Urias/Vavra in at 1B. 

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Only Trevino has a higher fWAR/game of any catcher this year. And bbref has Rutschman higher. With the retirements of Posey and Yadier, it looks like Rutschman will probably be the first great catcher of the next era.

 

https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=c&stats=bat&lg=all&qual=50&type=8&season=2022&month=0&season1=2022&ind=0&team=0&rost=0&age=0&filter=&players=0&startdate=2022-01-01&enddate=2022-12-31

# Name Team G PA HR R RBI SB BB% K% ISO BABIP AVG OBP SLG wOBA xwOBA wRC+ BsR Off Def WAR
 
1 J.T. Realmuto PHI 91 369 11 49 49 13 8.1% 20.3% .165 .306 .263 .336 .428 .334 .331 113 3.5 9.3 9.9 3.3
2 Jose Trevino NYY 76 221 10 29 34 2 5.0% 16.7% .192 .278 .264 .303 .457 .328 .290 115 0.7 4.4 20.4 3.3
3 Will Smith LAD 91 380 15 43 56 0 10.8% 16.3% .196 .289 .269 .358 .465 .358 .369 134 -1.0 14.1 2.2 3.1
4 Sean Murphy OAK 96 393 13 45 47 1 8.1% 21.9% .193 .285 .244 .319 .437 .327 .346 117 -1.7 5.9 10.8 3.0
5 Alejandro Kirk TOR 94 352 12 48 40 0 11.4% 9.7% .164 .305 .302 .386 .466 .372 .372 141 -5.0 11.4 5.6 2.9
6 Willson Contreras CHC 90 392 16 54 41 3 9.7% 21.7% .220 .294 .253 .367 .473 .369 .369 137 -0.7 16.3 -2.1 2.9
7 Jonah Heim TEX 84 310 13 44 38 2 9.0% 20.3% .196 .282 .254 .319 .450 .334 .292 119 -0.1 6.6 8.0 2.6
8 Daulton Varsho ARI 96 384 15 48 50 7 8.6% 23.7% .188 .282 .240 .314 .428 .324 .319 106 1.3 3.9 6.9 2.5
9 Adley Rutschman BAL 59 239 5 35 19 2 12.6% 17.6% .191 .291 .250 .356 .441 .350 .343 127 2.9 10.3 5.6 2.4
10 Travis d'Arnaud ATL 70 285 11 39 40 0 4.2% 20.4% .180 .283 .251 .298 .431 .317 .302 101 -1.8 -1.5 10.4 1.9
11 Cal Raleigh SEA 76 262 15 26 38 1 8.8% 30.5% .251 .224 .200 .271 .451 .310 .306 106 -0.7 1.0 9.2 1.9
12 Victor Caratini MIL 56 185 8 21 21 0 13.0% 20.5% .188 .257 .234 .357 .422 .344 .338 120 -1.2 3.2 6.3 1.7
13 Tyler Stephenson CIN 50 183 6 24 35 1 6.6% 25.7% .163 .409 .319 .372 .482 .370 .318 134 0.6 7.9 1.2 1.6
14 William Contreras ATL 54 205 14 28 27 2 11.7% 26.3% .282 .283 .254 .341 .536 .376 .358 141 -0.8 9.1 -1.2 1.6
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1 hour ago, Sports Guy said:

That’s because he’s easily our best player and the rest of the offense isn’t good.  

Rutschman's o-swing rate is top-15 in the league, and better than any O's player that I can think of from at least the past 15 years, and possibly longer.  Maybe they're pitching around him but he's also doing a really good job in terms of not overextending himself at the plate.

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On 8/5/2022 at 2:36 PM, accinfo said:

Where are all the experts here that said Adley was a bad pick at 1/1 after his first week in the majors?  If I saw someone else write he was 24.5 years old and would never live up to his draft position I was going to scream! 🤪

Quotes of those posts would be good for laughs.   

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