Orioles related trade rumors and speculation leading up to the deadline

[Billy F-Face3]

46 minutes ago, Bemorewins said:

Well, first I would have to find out if there was anything out there better than Scherzer.

Verlander is better than Scherzer here in 2023.

[Alasdaire]

Scherzer is putting up his worst season in over a decade and it's difficult to see that turning around at 39. He stabilizes a rotation, but he's not winning you games by himself anymore.

Paying what the Rangers did is a sign of being desperate, which they are with no deGrom. But you can make a case for it with the amount of money they've both already put in and can still put in if necessary in addition to having the best offense in baseball.

I don't see that dynamic on our end. Scherzer would be thrust into the number one role, we don't have an offense like the Rangers do, we don't have a massive payroll in win-now mode, and we can't just paper over any mistakes we make by throwing even more money in the coming years.

We don't have to do something just to do something. It has to make sense.

Edited July 30, 2023 by Alasdaire

[Bemorewins]

5 minutes ago, Alasdaire said:

Scherzer is putting up his worst season in over a decade and it's difficult to see that turning around at 39. He stabilizes a rotation, but he's not winning you games by himself anymore.

Paying what the Rangers did is a sign of being desperate, which they are with no deGrom. But you can make a case for it with the amount of money they've both already put in and can still put in if necessary in addition to having the best offense in baseball.

I don't see that dynamic on our end. Scherzer would be thrust into the number one role, we don't have an offense like the Rangers do, we don't have a massive payroll in win-now mode, and we can't just paper over any mistakes we make by throwing even more money in the coming years.

We don't have to do something just to do something. It has to make sense.

We have to do something meaningful though or else we are just conceding the AL to them

[24fps]

3 minutes ago, Alasdaire said:

Scherzer is putting up his worst season in over a decade and it's difficult to see that turning around at 39. He stabilizes a rotation, but he's not winning you games by himself anymore.

Paying what the Rangers did is a sign of being desperate, which they are with no deGrom. But you can make a case for it with the amount of money they've both already put in and can still put in if necessary in addition to having the best offense in baseball.

I don't see that dynamic on our end. Scherzer would be thrust into the number one role, we don't have an offense like the Rangers do, we don't have a massive payroll in win-now mode, and we can't just paper over any mistakes we make by throwing even more money in the coming years.

• N.Y. Mets, $353,546,854
• N.Y. Yankees, $276,999,872
• San Diego, $248,995,932
• Philadelphia, $243,009,439
• L.A. Dodgers, $222,717,834
• L.A. Angels, $212,228,096
• Toronto, $ 209,938,983

Throwing money doesn't seem to be a winning strategy this season unless you're the Dodgers.  Not the Orioles' sandbox.

[RVAOsFan]

 

[Aristotelian]

14 minutes ago, Alasdaire said:

Scherzer is putting up his worst season in over a decade and it's difficult to see that turning around at 39. He stabilizes a rotation, but he's not winning you games by himself anymore.

Paying what the Rangers did is a sign of being desperate, which they are with no deGrom. But you can make a case for it with the amount of money they've both already put in and can still put in if necessary in addition to having the best offense in baseball.

I don't see that dynamic on our end. Scherzer would be thrust into the number one role, we don't have an offense like the Rangers do, we don't have a massive payroll in win-now mode, and we can't just paper over any mistakes we make by throwing even more money in the coming years.

We don't have to do something just to do something. It has to make sense.

Would love to see this move backfire on the Rangers. 

[Billy F-Face3]

16 minutes ago, 24fps said:

• N.Y. Mets, $353,546,854
• N.Y. Yankees, $276,999,872
• San Diego, $248,995,932
• Philadelphia, $243,009,439
• L.A. Dodgers, $222,717,834
• L.A. Angels, $212,228,096
• Toronto, $ 209,938,983

Throwing money doesn't seem to be a winning strategy this season unless you're the Dodgers.  Not the Orioles' sandbox.

In fairness, the Phillies were in the World Series just 9 months ago.

[FlipTheBird]

25 minutes ago, Bemorewins said:

We have to do something meaningful though or else we are just conceding the AL to them

You’re saying that on the strength of adding 2023 Max Scherzer, the Orioles couldn’t beat the Rangers in a playoff series?

[FlipTheBird]

57 minutes ago, Billy F-Face3 said:

Verlander is better than Scherzer here in 2023.

He may be destined for the Astros, who honestly are a far more concerning threat than the Rangers right now, IMO. I don’t think Texas wins the west. 

[Tryptamine]

28 minutes ago, RVAOsFan said:

 

Piggybacking this, the Cubs won their 8th in a row and are now 3.5 out of the division and 3 out of the WC, so it's extremely unlikely they'll be selling.

[Bemorewins]

13 minutes ago, FlipTheBird said:

You’re saying that on the strength of adding 2023 Max Scherzer, the Orioles couldn’t beat the Rangers in a playoff series?

No. I’m saying we can go into the tournament as is.

[FlipTheBird]

2 minutes ago, Bemorewins said:

No. I’m saying we can go into the tournament as is.

Ok, so we’re *not* conceding the AL to them? Because that’s what you said.

[Tryptamine]

 

[Billy F-Face3]

15 minutes ago, Tryptamine said:

 

I could get behind this, so long as it's pending on a physical to make sure he's healthy and his hamstring is OK.

[Bemorewins]

27 minutes ago, Bemorewins said:

No. I’m saying we can go into the tournament as is.

Sorry - Should have said **can’t** go into the tournament as is.