Henderson ROY, Hyde MOY, Elias EOY thread

[dystopia]

1 hour ago, forphase1 said:

Sure.   I'm a huge Os fan, but I'd vote for Bochy myself, though it's close.  Just being honest. 

It's a good thing you aren't voting then.

Keep in mind playoffs are not included here. The voting happens before the playoffs start.

[Goober Noodles]

20 minutes ago, Bahama O's Fan said:

I think the awards are supposed to be for regular season only; correct me if I'm wrong. If that's the case, it's Hyde, no brainer. When the regular season ended, if you would have voted right then and there, Bochy wouldn't have gotten into the top 5; they were in a tailspin.

I thought I heard (maybe it was on the Adam Jones podcast?) that the writers voted right after the season ended?  Can anyone confirm?

[Can_of_corn]

4 minutes ago, dystopia said:

Sure, if there's objective justification for it, but Bochy won less games with a far, far bigger payroll. There's no reasonable argument for him.

I don't get the fascination with payroll.

Hyde should get extra credit because he had the good fortune to have Gunnar and Adley making the league minimum?

How does that make him a better manager?

For the record, according to Sportac the Rangers spent 60M in payroll to players on the IL, the O's spent 11. 

[Bahama O's Fan]

9 minutes ago, Goober Noodles said:

I thought I heard (maybe it was on the Adam Jones podcast?) that the writers voted right after the season ended?  Can anyone confirm?

If they voted on the day the season ended, then the Rays manager should have more votes than Bochy

[Just Regular]

Cal Ripken on the show to make the announcement...

[dystopia]

Gunnar wins

 

https://twitter.com/MLB/status/1724206798989586445

[Moose Milligan]

Good. 

[OsFanSinceThe80s]

 

[Mooreisbetter27]

Won in a landslide. Had all 30 first place votes. 

[Frobby]

Nice to see a unanimous vote.  Congrats to Gunnar on a well-deserved award.  He took it very calmly, which was unsurprising.   

[Jagwar]

7 minutes ago, Frobby said:

Nice to see a unanimous vote.  Congrats to Gunnar on a well-deserved award.  He took it very calmly, which was unsurprising.   

Now... how about matching Cal and winning MVP next year. 

[Sports Guy]

 

[Can_of_corn]

20 minutes ago, Jagwar said:

Now... how about matching Cal and winning MVP next year. 

I'd rather he win a ring in year two like Cal did.

 

[Sports Guy]

1 hour ago, dystopia said:

Sure, if there's objective justification for it, but Bochy won less games with a far, far bigger payroll. There's no reasonable argument for him.

Well that’s wrong. There are reasonable arguments for lots of managers.

[Can_of_corn]

3 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

Well that’s wrong. There are reasonable arguments for lots of managers.

The idea of a bias is just ridiculous.  Why?

Why would anyone be biased against Hyde?

Just like why would Fangraphs be biased against the O's?

They never have an explanation as to why.