What makes Basallo so untouchable?

[Malike]

Just now, CP0861 said:

Fair enough. I simply looked at the most recent two weeks or 14 games I think (which aside from 1 game are quite underwhelming). I didn't look beyond that. Hopefully he heats back up. Two weeks is already a small enough sample size. Don't care to go tit for tat with endless cherry picking of single weeks. I'm sure I could find another bad week.

Right, why not just do the prudent thing and look at the larger sample sizes? See the upward trend? It's pretty nice.

 

[CP0861]

1 minute ago, Malike said:

Right, why not just do the prudent thing and look at the larger sample sizes? See the upward trend? It's pretty nice.

 

Ugh. I DID. lol.

The only reason I even looked at 2 weeks in the first place was because another poster took issue with me referencing his 2024 stat line.

So many of you want to argue simply for the sake of arguing....gets pretty nutty.

 

[waroriole]

1 hour ago, CP0861 said:

Ugh. No I'm not. Literally the last response I just made to someone else was "fair enough"

I'm simply asking for more substance than "he's 19 and in AA"

And "not normal" isn't saying much. Slightly above average could be considered not normal. He's doing very well for his age, but let's not act like he's putting up superhuman numbers.

Then look it up yourself and try to understand. Why does everyone else have to explain it to you?

[interloper]

1 hour ago, CP0861 said:

Ugh. No I'm not. Literally the last response I just made to someone else was "fair enough"

I'm simply asking for more substance than "he's 19 and in AA"

And "not normal" isn't saying much. Slightly above average could be considered not normal. He's doing very well for his age, but let's not act like he's putting up superhuman numbers.

I mean this take is fairly reasonable and I sympathize with your frustration in this discussion.

He's not putting up superhuman numbers. He's putting up good numbers that are trending up, and factoring in his age and position, it's pretty exciting. But like Frobby said, he's not untouchable, it's just that it seems unlikely there's a trade fit for him because it would cost the other team someone equally as exciting, with years of control, and who is ML ready. Those guys just don't exist much on the trade market. 

[Malike]

Basallo is the youngest player in the Eastern League. He's 14th in OPS in the league and the guys ahead of him are 2 to 6 years older than he is. There's nothing special there. Nope.

[CP0861]

 

14 minutes ago, Malike said:

Basallo is the youngest player in the Eastern League. He's 14th in OPS in the league and the guys ahead of him are 2 to 6 years older than he is. There's nothing special there. Nope.

If you are going to take the time to create graphics, why not take the time to check your claims?

The guys ahead of him are NOT 2-6 years older. Most of them are, sure, but not all of them. Took less than a minute to check.

 

Edited Monday at 18:43 by CP0861

[btdart20]

We're not talking about a #3 prospect at an org level, though he is that.  We're talking about a top 10ish prospect in the league.  #3 in most orgs would be in the back half of any list.  When the upside probability of success is much lower.

Portfolio theory would say hold your low risk/high reward investments through the R&D phase.

[Sports Guy]

4 minutes ago, CP0861 said:

 

If you are going to take the time to create graphics, why not take the time to check your claims?

The guys ahead of him are NOT 2-6 years older. Most of them are, sure, but not all of them. Took less than a minute to check.

 

2 of the 13 are less than 2 years older..still older with Roman Anthony the closest, as he’s only 3 months older.

[Spakman]

1 hour ago, CP0861 said:

Fair enough. I simply looked at the most recent two weeks or 14 games I think (which aside from 1 game are quite underwhelming). I didn't look beyond that. Hopefully he heats back up. Two weeks is already a small enough sample size. I'm sure I could find another mediocre week but I don't really care to go tit for tat with endless cherry picking.

I don’t actually think you want him to do good. I think you care more about him not being as good as everybody else in the world thinks he is and you being right. I’m sure the other 31 teams would love you to be in charge of the Orioles.

[CP0861]

24 minutes ago, Spakman said:

I don’t actually think you want him to do good. I think you care more about him not being as good as everybody else in the world thinks he is and you being right. I’m sure the other 31 teams would love you to be in charge of the Orioles.

I want them ALL to do well. I have no ill will towards any Oriole or prospect. Lifelong fan and current plan holder. I want EVERYTHING to work out in our favor.

I know little to nothing about Basallo except for what I read online and what I can glean from his stats, which is obviously not the whole story/picture. Hence the original post full of questions about him.

Sorry you seem bothered by it all, but do you have any thoughts to share on Basallo? Or any responses to any of the 6 questions I asked in the original post? Or did you just get it all of your chest with that single, insightful comment?

 

Edited Monday at 19:25 by CP0861

[LookitsPuck]

Basallo is currently ranked 69th in OPS at AA, which includes stats from people that are no longer at that level (including those that were demoted, promoted, etc.). 

Average age of players above Basallo: 24

He's the youngest. But here's the breakdown of those above him (minimum 50 PA):

• 20: 3
• 21: 9
• 22: 10
• 23: 10
• 24: 11
• 25: 15
• 26: 7
• 27: 1
• 28: 2

OPS by age group for everybody that qualifies in PA (at least 50): (ref: https://milbtracker.com/hitter-stats?levels[0]=AA&sort=ops&sort_direction=desc&org=&timeframe=2024&min_walk_percentage=0&max_strike_out_percentage=100&paginate=50&page=1)

AGE OPS

18	0.544
19	0.800
20	0.747
21	0.734
22	0.701
23	0.677
24	0.664
25	0.682
26	0.682
27	0.620
28	0.686
29	0.652
30	0.588
31	0.676

Breakdown by age:

AGE COUNT PERCENTAGE 18 1 0.22% 19 1 0.22% 20 7 1.56% 21 31 6.92% 22 55 12.28% 23 83 18.53% 24 86 19.20% 25 88 19.64% 26 51 11.38% 27 21 4.69% 28 7 1.56% 29 11 2.46% 30 3 0.67% 31 3 0.67%

I mean, 90% of the league is aged 21-27 with 60% of the league being aged 23-25. 

Basallo is putting up a comparable OPS to the upper echelon of hitters overall. And is OPSing better than *every age group* on average! 

The kid is special. At age 20, Gunnar put up an 826 OPS across A, A+, AA. At age 18, Basallo put up a 953 OPS across A, A+, AA.

[interloper]

31 minutes ago, Spakman said:

I don’t actually think you want him to do good. I think you care more about him not being as good as everybody else in the world thinks he is and you being right. I’m sure the other 31 teams would love you to be in charge of the Orioles.

This feels needlessly aggressive. The OP is reasonable enough. No Orioles fan wants a prospect to do poorly out of spite. 

[CP0861]

6 minutes ago, LookitsPuck said:

Basallo is currently ranked 69th in OPS at AA, which includes stats from people that are no longer at that level (including those that were demoted, promoted, etc.). 

Average age of players above Basallo: 24

He's the youngest. But here's the breakdown of those above him (minimum 50 PA):

• 20: 3
• 21: 9
• 22: 10
• 23: 10
• 24: 11
• 25: 15
• 26: 7
• 27: 1
• 28: 2

OPS by age group for everybody that qualifies in PA (at least 50): (ref: https://milbtracker.com/hitter-stats?levels[0]=AA&sort=ops&sort_direction=desc&org=&timeframe=2024&min_walk_percentage=0&max_strike_out_percentage=100&paginate=50&page=1)

AGE OPS

18	0.544
19	0.800
20	0.747
21	0.734
22	0.701
23	0.677
24	0.664
25	0.682
26	0.682
27	0.620
28	0.686
29	0.652
30	0.588
31	0.676

Breakdown by age:

AGE COUNT PERCENTAGE 18 1 0.22% 19 1 0.22% 20 7 1.56% 21 31 6.92% 22 55 12.28% 23 83 18.53% 24 86 19.20% 25 88 19.64% 26 51 11.38% 27 21 4.69% 28 7 1.56% 29 11 2.46% 30 3 0.67% 31 3 0.67%

I mean, 90% of the league is aged 21-27 with 60% of the league being aged 23-25. 

Basallo is putting up a comparable OPS to the upper echelon of hitters overall. And is OPSing better than *every age group* on average! 

The kid is special. At age 20, Gunnar put up an 826 OPS across A, A+, AA. At age 18, Basallo put up a 953 OPS across A, A+, AA.

Wow! Now that's a fine break down! Much appreciated!!

Edited Monday at 19:39 by CP0861

[interloper]

14 minutes ago, LookitsPuck said:

Basallo is currently ranked 69th in OPS at AA, which includes stats from people that are no longer at that level (including those that were demoted, promoted, etc.). 

Average age of players above Basallo: 24

He's the youngest. But here's the breakdown of those above him (minimum 50 PA):

• 20: 3
• 21: 9
• 22: 10
• 23: 10
• 24: 11
• 25: 15
• 26: 7
• 27: 1
• 28: 2

OPS by age group for everybody that qualifies in PA (at least 50): (ref: https://milbtracker.com/hitter-stats?levels[0]=AA&sort=ops&sort_direction=desc&org=&timeframe=2024&min_walk_percentage=0&max_strike_out_percentage=100&paginate=50&page=1)

AGE OPS

18	0.544
19	0.800
20	0.747
21	0.734
22	0.701
23	0.677
24	0.664
25	0.682
26	0.682
27	0.620
28	0.686
29	0.652
30	0.588
31	0.676

Breakdown by age:

AGE COUNT PERCENTAGE 18 1 0.22% 19 1 0.22% 20 7 1.56% 21 31 6.92% 22 55 12.28% 23 83 18.53% 24 86 19.20% 25 88 19.64% 26 51 11.38% 27 21 4.69% 28 7 1.56% 29 11 2.46% 30 3 0.67% 31 3 0.67%

I mean, 90% of the league is aged 21-27 with 60% of the league being aged 23-25. 

Basallo is putting up a comparable OPS to the upper echelon of hitters overall. And is OPSing better than *every age group* on average! 

The kid is special. At age 20, Gunnar put up an 826 OPS across A, A+, AA. At age 18, Basallo put up a 953 OPS across A, A+, AA.

Excellent breakdown. Deserves more rep!

[OsFanSinceThe80s]

23 minutes ago, LookitsPuck said:

Basallo is currently ranked 69th in OPS at AA, which includes stats from people that are no longer at that level (including those that were demoted, promoted, etc.). 

Average age of players above Basallo: 24

He's the youngest. But here's the breakdown of those above him (minimum 50 PA):

• 20: 3
• 21: 9
• 22: 10
• 23: 10
• 24: 11
• 25: 15
• 26: 7
• 27: 1
• 28: 2

OPS by age group for everybody that qualifies in PA (at least 50): (ref: https://milbtracker.com/hitter-stats?levels[0]=AA&sort=ops&sort_direction=desc&org=&timeframe=2024&min_walk_percentage=0&max_strike_out_percentage=100&paginate=50&page=1)

AGE OPS

18	0.544
19	0.800
20	0.747
21	0.734
22	0.701
23	0.677
24	0.664
25	0.682
26	0.682
27	0.620
28	0.686
29	0.652
30	0.588
31	0.676

Breakdown by age:

AGE COUNT PERCENTAGE 18 1 0.22% 19 1 0.22% 20 7 1.56% 21 31 6.92% 22 55 12.28% 23 83 18.53% 24 86 19.20% 25 88 19.64% 26 51 11.38% 27 21 4.69% 28 7 1.56% 29 11 2.46% 30 3 0.67% 31 3 0.67%

I mean, 90% of the league is aged 21-27 with 60% of the league being aged 23-25. 

Basallo is putting up a comparable OPS to the upper echelon of hitters overall. And is OPSing better than *every age group* on average! 

The kid is special. At age 20, Gunnar put up an 826 OPS across A, A+, AA. At age 18, Basallo put up a 953 OPS across A, A+, AA.

Good breakdown.