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Perfect Example Of Tejada Losing a Game!

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By Eli Eon
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An error that resulted in 5 runs scoring after what would have been the inning ending outs! That is more than an error, that is a back breaking, game losing blunder of the utmost magnitude when you consider what resulted from it!:eek:

Would you be this critical if the error came with the Orioles ahead by 8 runs and the pitching pulled through and overcame it?

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http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/stats/fielding?groupId=9&season=2007&seasonType=2&split=82&sortColumn=doublePlays

This is how Tejada stacks up with the rest of the SS using many of the basic fielding stats.

Obviously, since he missed time, you have to project out his stats as if he didn't miss a game.

Oh my god, he is eighth in the league in fielding percentage! :eek: That's horrible! :mad: I yearn for the days of Juan Bell!

Seriously, I realize that he has lost a little range but he still has a strong arm and he is not as bad of a shortstop as a lot of people on this board think.

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Or if Fahey/Hernedez/Bynum/(Insert any other bum on a MLB Roster)

Those guys are scrappy, unaccomplished, and therefore immune to the iron fist of judgment that is Eli Eon.

I think I get it with EE now...above average defensive skills plus poor offensive skills > average defensive skills plus best hitter on the team skills.

Did I get that right?

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Chollie Eckman Major Leaguer Cup of Coffee

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Look guys - it was a critical situation - HE CHOKED - it led to a bunch of "unearned" earned runs scored. What other team that we played this year had their SS botch a play that led to us piling on runs? It does happen and with Tejada all to often at inopportune times.

Take the blinders off and stop piling on.

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Look guys - it was a critical situation - HE CHOKED - it led to a bunch of "unearned" earned runs scored. What other team that we played this year had their SS botch a play that led to us piling on runs? It does happen and with Tejada all to often at inopportune times.

Take the blinders off and stop piling on.

Give me three other examples this year of inopportune Tejada errors that cost us games.

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Look guys - it was a critical situation - HE CHOKED - it led to a bunch of "unearned" earned runs scored. What other team that we played this year had their SS botch a play that led to us piling on runs? It does happen and with Tejada all to often at inopportune times.

Take the blinders off and stop piling on.

He did make a mistake. It happens. But why are we not assigning any blame to our wonderful pitching staff that tossed up a lot of garbage that inning as well.

I am not completely dismissing Tejada for his error, but did not hang a few sliders after that though.

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Oh shoot Im almost sad I went out tonight and got to miss yet another of these threads.

I really think Eli Eon is ONLY on this board to do this.

There was a DUI checkpoint while I was driving home and I was held up two hours and my AC wasn't working right....freaking Miggy, probably removed my frion.

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You don't need sabermetrics to prove this point! This is pathetic! The guy says some of the most inane bullhocky a body can muster up about the best player on our team... and notice that he hasn't brought up a single new point throughout the entire thread, but has simply repeated the same miggysucks mantra over and over. This frustration causes the sane populace of the OH to dig deeper and deeper into their enormous basin of baseball knowledge, to absolutely no consequence, cause this one guy just keeps saying the same redundant bull over and over. The man shelters himself from the discussion, hands on ears, repeatedly screaming his three or four lines of defense but safe from the harmful ways of common sense, as everyone around him gets a little bit madder and madder by taking him seriously.

I find this thread to be an incredible study of the human psyche.

Allow me to join in!

Eli, Miggy contributed five runs to today's losing box score, with a bit of help from his teammates. Can we agree on that? Now, I'm not going to agree that he also took away five runs(with a whole lot of help from his teammates), but for the sake of argument and logic be damned, let's just say that that's the case. Now, in case you haven't realized, 5 and 5 are very similar numbers. In fact, they're the same number! We can verify this by opening Microsoft Calculator and subtracting 5 from 5. I won't get into arithmetic involved, but the result we get is 0. So by your math, Miggy contributed a total of 0 runs to the game. He essentially had a neutral effect. The same effect, virtually, as going 0-4 with no walks, runs, or RBI.

On August 3rd, 2007, Barry Bonds went 0-4 with no runs or RBI. On July 15th, he went 0-5. Holy moly! That's five outs, all coming from the same guy! Outs are a very valuable thing in baseball, perhaps the most valuable thing... so presumably, this Barry Bonds fellow must be a very, very bad baseball player to have these nasty games where he contributes absolutely nothing. Right?

Wrong.

I'm gonna let you in on a little secret... Barry Bonds is actually a very good baseball player. He's even the all-time leader in home runs! Who woulda thunk it, am I right? ;)

Ivan Rodriguez went 0-4 today! Wowee Zowee. He must be really terrible, right? Nope, he's a hall of famer! Jippers! Carlos Pena went 0-5 with FOUR strikeouts! The Devil Rays probably released him right there, right? Wrong-o! He's actually quite good!

Is my point proven yet?

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