Where are the pollyannas?

[Sanity Check]

Better yet, where was Adam Frazier when we needed him most.....oh, wait, in the other dugout.   

Bases loaded, no one out....sure could have used that guy that Hangouters had to jettison out of here favor of Jackson Holliday.  

[Tony-OH]

2 minutes ago, webbrick2010 said:

Hmmm things keep getting closer to my thread that Elias needs to go

Give him another year, fine, unless they spend big money they are just a .500 team next year

Pitching and defense win championships, Elias has ignored both.

We draft a 1-1 SS and lo and behold he maybe has the arm strength for 2B. We draft OF'ers who can't be trusted to play in Camden yards LF, we hold onto guys like Coby Mayo (should have been trade for pitching) and lo and behold there is no position on the field that he can be trusted to play.

Just like the Orioles for the past 20 years we don't have anyone who can make consistent contact and post a high OBP

The playoff run  for this abomination of a roster is over, and without a single game won.

Hard to argue with a lot of your points. He's had two 1-1 and should have taken Witt over Rutschman and has a poor defensive second baseman with hitting issues with his other one. 

He gets one more offseason with bigger pocketbooks. He gets one more year to put up or shutup.

[Sanity Check]

12 minutes ago, Tony-OH said:

Where are you now?

Where are the posters who laughed when we said how boring this team was?
Where are the posters who scoffed at the idea that this team is full of players who can't perfrom under pressure?
Where are the posters that bring up that the Orioles offense scored the second most runs?
Where are the posters that go into the game thread and tell people they are overreacting when it's clear this team is choking time and time again?
Where were the posters who just think it's baseball that this core group choked once again?

Every single coach should be fired. Hyde should be fired. Elias gets one more offseason with an owner that may actually spend.

Santander, Mountcastle and O'Hearn should have played their last games as Orioles.

Rutschman needs to go to fat boy camp and lose about 15 pounds while putting on muscle. Maybe go to a hitting school that teach 2-0 is a great pitch to swing on. 

At the end of the day, this is EXACTLY what this team deserved. They have played like scared little school children since late June. Don't give me injuries, because this team's offense was in tact and they scored one freakin' run in two games. One. 

They were swept by a 85-win team that has struggled down the stretch. They collected two hits off a bullpen in 8 innings of work. They are an absolute and utter embarrassment. This team is more of an embarrassment than the team that lost 110+ games. 

Everyone involved in this season have stained their reputation. EVERYONE. Gunnar hits 37 home runs and craps his pants. Cowser thinks he's rookie of the year and dude swings at ball that hit him with the bases loaded. What kind of ridiculous unprofessional at bat was that? 

Adley? Are you kidding me. If they traded him this offseason I wouldn't shed a tear. 

The only thing good in any of this is now my calendar has been freed up. Never again will I ever trust a Hyde-led, Elias developed team led by his core. He needs to go out and find guys that don't poop their pants the second pressure is involved.

Thank you Burnes for being a professional and doing your job. You deserved better than being in a clubhouse full of choke artists. 

If Elias brings back this coaching staff he gets one more year to win a World Series than he's on the chopping block too. If he wants to ride with these losers, then go down with these losers.

Many people won't like your post, but you are not wrong.  Orange colored glasses really gloss over the dose of reality folks don't like to hear, and don't want to accept.  

[milbest77]

Hindsight is 20/20, but anyone want a do-over of that 2019 draft at 1:1? Would you still take Adley or Witt……

[Tony-OH]

3 minutes ago, baltfan said:

We are going the way of the Blue Jays.  Remember what they looked like they were going to become a few years ago.  Changes need to be made.  Hyde needs to be gone. Guys need to spend the offseason working on their weaknesses. They won’t do this if Hyde is the manager and they know they have a spot secured.  

Really interesting comparison to the Blue Jays. They finished last with that "amazing" group of home grown players this year. Could be the Orioles future as many of their players have not turned into the players we had hoped. 

[Tony-OH]

1 minute ago, Sanity Check said:

Many people won't like your post, but you are not wrong.  Orange colored glasses really gloss over the dose of reality folks don't like to hear, and don't want to accept.  

So far, only one polyanna was willing to show their face in this thread!

[MDK02]

Perfectly said. This team is an utter joke. I’ll never spend a dime to goto any kind of game with this group of players and coaches. We actually got worst at the AS break via trades. Gunnar is a wanna-be Witt Jr. This is one of of the slowest, unathletic baseball teams to step on a field. 

[LGOrioles]

I was told that nothing is Brandon Hyde’s fault though. He can’t hit or pitch so why should he be fired? If that’s the case, let’s give him a lifetime contract and he can retire whenever he’d like. Or better yet, why even have a coach if they have no effect on the team or outcomes? 

[EddeeEddee]

5 minutes ago, webbrick2010 said:

Hmmm things keep getting closer to my thread that Elias needs to go

Give him another year, fine, unless they spend big money they are just a .500 team next year

Pitching and defense win championships, Elias has ignored both.

We draft a 1-1 SS and lo and behold he maybe has the arm strength for 2B. We draft OF'ers who can't be trusted to play in Camden yards LF, we hold onto guys like Coby Mayo (should have been trade for pitching) and lo and behold there is no position on the field that he can be trusted to play.

Just like the Orioles for the past 20 years we don't have anyone who can make consistent contact and post a high OBP

The playoff run  for this abomination of a roster is over, and without a single game won.

Pitching hasn't really been a significant problem for awhile.  The starting pitching has been quite good at least since Rogers got demoted.  Other than the one recent Yankee game the bullpen has been pretty serviceable.  It's the hitting.  It just vanished -- like a magic act.  

[royalstillman]

I've followed this team since '66. I've never in my years as a fan seen such a collection of offensive buffoonery from hitters who are supposed to be talented. There is something dreadfully wrong.Their entire hitting approach is a joke, and it's been a thing the entire 2nd half. I am not at all shocked at what happened in this series.What a disappointment.

[webbrick2010]

5 minutes ago, milbest77 said:

Hindsight is 20/20, but anyone want a do-over of that 2019 draft at 1:1? Would you still take Adley or Witt……

There are 4 maybe 5 players in the top 10 of that draft that are better than Adley

[Sanity Check]

Tony, you forgot a couple of other items:

Where are those who thought that turning the calendar to a new month would ignite the offense, like there's frickin' timer on it?

Where are those who felt we "got hot" the last week of the season and were going to carry it into the playoffs?

And, where are those who think that "pressure" is just a made up thing, and not something that some players can't handle?

Any time I've tried to point out weaknesses and concerns that I was seeing, I was scoffed at by a few.  I am personally not disappointed, because I had zero expectations.  I was hoping to be pleasantly surprised, and at the end of the day, I feel REALLY bad for Corbin Burnes and Zach Efflin, who both deserved a better outcome.

 

[milbest77]

Go back to Elias’ introductory press conference in 2018. Nowhere in there did he say the goal is to win championships. He said the goal is to build a talent pipeline, which means Tampa North and being cheap. And let’s not act like Rubenstein is Steve Cohen and will spend a billion dollars in the offseason. He’s a billionaire. He didn’t buy the team to lose money. 

[baltfan]

3 minutes ago, Tony-OH said:

Really interesting comparison to the Blue Jays. They finished last with that "amazing" group of home grown players this year. Could be the Orioles future as many of their players have not turned into the players we had hoped. 

Absolutely.  The Rays get back their top 3 starters next year. The Sox are on our heels and have 4 top 25 prospects with $$$. The NYY are the Yankees. Maybe we finish above the Jays. Things are getting dire and no one wants to admit it.  I would clean house of guys like Mounty and Urias. Let the young guys play. See what you have. Holliday has to turn into a pure hitter.  Heston needs to develop.  If you trust your development people, let them play 

[Tony-OH]

If Matt Borgschulte, Ryan Fuller, and Cody Asche have jobs in the morning, Elias should be called on the carpet by Rubenstein. At the very least they need to go.