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Ervin Santana now seeking a one-year deal (Braves close to a deal)

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fearthenoodle Major Leaguer

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I guess I'm sentimental on MiGo and Chen. I just don't see Ervin as an upgrade. MO. :noidea:

I think we all like Gonzo and Chen, and I don't think a Santana signing really has any immediate affect on them. I think Santana is a better fit in the ballpark than Norris, and has a higher upside, particularly if he's playing for a contract again. My opinion, of course. It's ok to disagree.

It should be clear though, that if Santana can take all of the changes he made last year and continue them this year to similar results, than he definitely would be an upgrade.

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They don't lose one of their picks. They would lose the pick that they could GAIN if he signed anywhere else. This is from yesterday afternoon. They knew about Hochevar last week.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Despite word Santana will take a 1-year deal, Moore says Royals "moving forward" w/out him. "The candidates for our rotation are in-house."</p>— Andy McCullough (@McCulloughStar) <a href="

">March 8, 2014</a></blockquote>

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He was shut down for a couple of days last week. The Tommy John Surgery was announced yesterday.

Maybe the quote is true, or maybe he's posturing. Tough to see why they wouldn't want him. We'll see what happens.

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He was shut down for a couple of days last week. The Tommy John Surgery was announced yesterday.

Maybe the quote is true, or maybe he's posturing. Tough to see why they wouldn't want him. We'll see what happens.

He was shut down through May last week, if we want to be accurate. He decided to just go ahead with the TJ though so he can be ready for whomever he pitches for in 2015.

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I think Hochevar was probably not the favorite for their rotation spot, anyway. Like Matusz and Hunter for us, he really found himself in the bullpen last year, and I think he was likely to return there with Duffy or Ventura getting the last spot in their rotation.

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Not really a fan of the "sign Ervin/trade Bud" idea; I'd rather have 2 years of Norris than 1 year of Santana. I think that in the AL East and its tiny, HR friendly parks, Santana is less of an upgrade over Bud than a lot of people believe.

That's why he wants to sign with a high power offensive team; to make his mistakes less costly.

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Just a guess, but maybe he's equating run support with W's and then equating W's with $'s for his next deal.

I think this is more than a guess. GMs still overpay for pitchers with strong W-L records and you get those by playing for teams that can give you run support.

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He was shut down for a couple of days last week. The Tommy John Surgery was announced yesterday.

Maybe the quote is true, or maybe he's posturing. Tough to see why they wouldn't want him. We'll see what happens.

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Are the Orioles in on Ervin Santana? Along w/Blue Jays and Yankees, they seem best suited to give up a draft pick.</p>— Phil Rogers (@philgrogers) <a href="

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I think this is more than a guess. GMs still overpay for pitchers with strong W-L records and you get those by playing for teams that can give you run support.

I think you're living in the past more than most GMs. ;)

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With the 4 year demand out the window a lot of teams may become interested again.

If wants a deal ASAP, my guess is he ends up with one of the teams that has been in for a while. Just a guess, though. Giving up a 1st rounder for 1 year of Santana will still keep a lot of teams away. The ones with protected first rounders, or who have already given up their first rounder (Toronto, Baltimore, New York to name a few) are probably more likely.

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