The DH is Here to Stay And Maybe There too.

[Brooks The Great]

Max Scherzer advocates for adding the DH to the NL.

[weams]

Max Scherzer advocates for adding the DH to the NL.

You will see more of that. Especially from the high profile guys with high profile agents.

[DrungoHazewood]

Since MLB pitchers-as-hitters are about on par with a random high school kid trying to hit, maybe that points to a solution that at least increases interest and maybe revenues. You choose a ticket at random for that day's game and they're the DH, just so long as they'll sign an injury liability waiver. The on-field performance stays roughly the same, but it will spawn tens of millions of additional internet hits. And once every three or four weeks, some Fred Smith from Des Moines lines a ball into RF, and that ball will be the centerpiece of his mantle for the rest of his life.

[backwardsk]

Expand the rosters to 45 so you can have designated fielders and designated hitters for all positions. They should have courtesy runners too. I pay good money to watch baseball. I'm not paying to watch Molina run the bases. Ceaser Izturis shouldn't be discriminated against because he can't hit. #nohitfielderslivesmatter

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[DrungoHazewood]

Expand the rosters to 45 so you can have designated fielders and designated hitters for all positions. They should have courtesy runners too. I pay good money to watch baseball. I'm not paying to watch Molina run the bases. Ceaser Izturis shouldn't be discriminated against because he can't hit. #nohitfielderslivesmatter

I'm sure on some level this is tongue-in-cheek, but why not do this with the All Star game? They already have 35-man rosters (or is it more now?) for one nine-inning exhibition game. It would be freakin' awesome, to the point where I might actually watch the game, to have the nine best fielders in the league playing a game together.

[FanSince88]

I hate to be a narc here, but shouldn't this be in the MLB forum and not the Orioles Talk forum?

[DrungoHazewood]

Letting the pitchers hit is stupid and out-dated.

Some form of a DH rule was first formally proposed in the early 1890s.

[Frobby]

The thing I hate most about allowing the pitcher to bat is when a team has a two-out rally going, the 8th place hitter comes up, and gets intentionally walked so that they can pitch to the other team's pitcher instead. That really takes the fun out of an inning.

[DrungoHazewood]

The thing I hate most about allowing the pitcher to bat is when a team has a two-out rally going, the 8th place hitter comes up, and gets intentionally walked so that they can pitch to the other team's pitcher instead. That really takes the fun out of an inning.

All intentional walks should be put on 2nd base, with all runners moving up two.

[Creamsicle]

Expand the rosters to 45 so you can have designated fielders and designated hitters for all positions. They should have courtesy runners too. I pay good money to watch baseball. I'm not paying to watch Molina run the bases. Ceaser Izturis shouldn't be discriminated against because he can't hit. #nohitfielderslivesmatter

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The last of the NFL's full time two-way players just died... this reminds me of that.

Seriously, though: I'm surprised I didn't see it mentioned in this thread so far, but one good thing about pitchers batting is that they risk revenge when they "intentionally" hit batters. It's pretty easy/cowardly for a pitcher to plunk a guy in the AL, knowing he won't have to face the music himself.

[weams]

Since MLB pitchers-as-hitters are about on par with a random high school kid trying to hit, maybe that points to a solution that at least increases interest and maybe revenues. You choose a ticket at random for that day's game and they're the DH, just so long as they'll sign an injury liability waiver. The on-field performance stays roughly the same, but it will spawn tens of millions of additional internet hits. And once every three or four weeks, some Fred Smith from Des Moines lines a ball into RF, and that ball will be the centerpiece of his mantle for the rest of his life.

Fred Smith. Des Moines.

[weams]

I hate to be a narc here, but shouldn't this be in the MLB forum and not the Orioles Talk forum?

I liked the fact the Orioles have DH. And playing in NL parks has an impact on our record.

[Oriolesfan4life]

I am all in favor of adding the DH to the NL for much of the same reasons you guys have mentioned.

I think the lack of a DH puts the AL at a disadvantage when it comes to not only interleague away games and in the World Series.

[DrungoHazewood]

Seriously, though: I'm surprised I didn't see it mentioned in this thread so far, but one good thing about pitchers batting is that they risk revenge when they "intentionally" hit batters. It's pretty easy/cowardly for a pitcher to plunk a guy in the AL, knowing he won't have to face the music himself.

Except that the impact is minimal. The leader among pitchers getting hit by pitch in the last 20 years is a five-way-tie at 5. Pedro used to be accused of being a head hunter and he was hit by pitches three times in 457 PAs. Old school Nolan Ryan pitched for 27 years and was never once hit by a pitch as a batter in 957 PAs. Bob Gibson was HBP'd 8 times in almost 1500 PAs despite hitting 102 batters with pitches. Nobody wants to hit an .067 hitter with a pitch and put them on base.

[weams]

Except that the impact is minimal. The leader among pitchers getting hit by pitch in the last 20 years is a five-way-tie at 5. Pedro used to be accused of being a head hunter and he was hit by pitches three times in 457 PAs. Old school Nolan Ryan pitched for 27 years and was never once hit by a pitch as a batter in 957 PAs. Bob Gibson was HBP'd 8 times in almost 1500 PAs despite hitting 102 batters with pitches. Nobody wants to hit an .067 hitter with a pitch and put them on base.

Hoot could kinda hit. .545 career OPS. Though Cesar Izturis is a .612. You I guess you have made your point.