So what next?

[ArtVanDelay]

1st pitching in the NL without a DH is different than the AL. Second pitching in the AL east is different. Third we have several starters similar. We should target a lefty who can miss bats. When he was still in the AL his K rate was on the decline just like UJ and Gallardo.

Lefties who can miss bats tend to fetch massive returns.

[LookitsPuck]

Half a season rental. All I care about is his era+ of 107 this year. He might be having that one last user he puts it together. They can have Wilson or Wright and Walker.

You're buying high. Just like Duquette did with Ubaldo. And Parra. How did they work out?

From April 15th to to June 25th (essentially excluding his first 2 starts and his last 2) he has a 4.61 ERA. In the NL. You trust that?

[aewell]

You're buying high. Just like Duquette did with Ubaldo. And Parra. How did they work out?

From April 15th to to June 25th (essentially excluding his first 2 starts and his last 2) he has a 4.61 ERA. In the NL. You trust that?

UJ was signed in free agency .. Parra we gave up a bag of balls .. but at least he was productive when we traded for him

[crawjo]

You're buying high. Just like Duquette did with Ubaldo. And Parra. How did they work out?

From April 15th to to June 25th (essentially excluding his first 2 starts and his last 2) he has a 4.61 ERA. In the NL. You trust that?

Hard to see how sending either Wilson or Wright and a 25-year-old corner outfielder/first baseman with a .746 OPS in AAA is "buying high."

[aewell]

Lefties who can miss bats tend to fetch massive returns.

Are we trying to win a Championship? or *****foot around?

[LookitsPuck]

Hard to see how sending either Wilson or Wright and a 25-year-old corner outfielder/first baseman with a .746 OPS in AAA is "buying high."

I'm not talking about what the O's give up. I'm talking about trading for Hellickson would be buying high on Hellickson.

As for Mancini? In 2015 he had a 938 OPS, in 2016 an 892 OPS. And he's 24.

[Dark Helmet]

I'm not talking about what the O's give up. I'm talking about trading for Hellickson would be buying high on Hellickson.

As for Mancini? In 2015 he had a 938 OPS, in 2016 an 892 OPS. And he's 24.

I think he was referring to Christian Walker. I mentioned the Phillies could have their choice of Wilson or Wright along with Walker. And I agree with Crawjo, how is that buying high? Either of those three are easily replaceable. So much so, I'm not sure they could even get a Jeremy Hellickson.

[Redskins Rick]

I'm not talking about what the O's give up. I'm talking about trading for Hellickson would be buying high on Hellickson.

As for Mancini? In 2015 he had a 938 OPS, in 2016 an 892 OPS. And he's 24.

High OPS in AA and AAA, doesn't always translate into a high OPS in the majors.

[BohKnowsBmore]

High OPS in AA and AAA, doesn't always translate into a high OPS in the majors.

Yes, it doesn't always translate. He's having success, though, what would you like people to talk about w/r/t Mancini?

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[LookitsPuck]

I think he was referring to Christian Walker. I mentioned the Phillies could have their choice of Wilson or Wright along with Walker. And I agree with Crawjo, how is that buying high? Either of those three are easily replaceable. So much so, I'm not sure they could even get a Jeremy Hellickson.

Walker is different than Mancini. Didn't realize that.

That said, buying high on Hellickson. He's had half a season of good starts, but largely has been treacherous the last 2 years. One of which was in the NL. He hasn't had a completely solid season since 2012.

That's what buying high is. Signing Ubaldo was buying high. Signing Parra was buying high. And they completely crashed and burned.

[Redskins Rick]

Walker is different than Mancini. Didn't realize that.

That said, buying high on Hellickson. He's had half a season of good starts, but largely has been treacherous the last 2 years. One of which was in the NL. He hasn't had a completely solid season since 2012.

That's what buying high is. Signing Ubaldo was buying high. Signing Parra was buying high. And they completely crashed and burned.

Parra was a desperate attempt, facing the reality of trying to find a decent COF.

[aewell]

Parra was a desperate attempt, facing the reality of trying to find a decent COF.

Parra was strange. That was his lowest BA while with the O's since 2009.

[Redskins Rick]

Parra was strange. That was his lowest BA while with the O's since 2009.

Parra isn't doing that great in Colorado.

[Dark Helmet]

Walker is different than Mancini. Didn't realize that.

That said, buying high on Hellickson. He's had half a season of good starts, but largely has been treacherous the last 2 years. One of which was in the NL. He hasn't had a completely solid season since 2012.

That's what buying high is. Signing Ubaldo was buying high. Signing Parra was buying high. And they completely crashed and burned.

So at worst, we're giving up mediocre players for a chance at a guy who has been pretty good this season. I still don't think that's buying high. To me, buying high is raiding the farm for a guy like Rich Hill.

[Redskins Rick]

So at worst, we're giving up mediocre players for a chance at a guy who has been pretty good this season. I still don't think that's buying high. To me, buying high is raiding the farm for a guy like Rich Hill.

I agree, if they raid the farm, by golly, make it worthwhile and a solid SP under contract, and not a 2 month rental.

With that said, I personally, do not see it happening, just not that many SP on the trading market.