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glenn__davis Hangout Grand Counsel

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The point is you can't assume it either way. Unless you see the ump give the signal, you run the damn ball out.

Tell you what, if I knew I tagged a ball, and my 1B coach reaches out and shakes my hand as I go by, I'm assuming it's a HR.

My larger point, though, is that Ramon has hit in some tough luck lately. He's been far better than his numbers.

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If they pull Trax. now, Trembley w/burn out the entire Orioles bullpen w/8 innings yo go. I think he'll leave him in and hope to get a few more innings.

Yeah, as much as it pains me, we gotta let Trax go out there and try and hold it. This is a long road trip and we don't want to Perlozzo the bullpen.

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Yeah, I heard Joe, but I think he's off base as well. I don't think Hernandez assumed the ball was going to be a HR. I think the angle made it look that way -- it obviously looked that way to Shelby as well.

So what? Nobody's disagreeing that it looked like a home run. However, until it has actually cleared the fence, it's a ball in play and the batter should be running. He obviously had to stay behind Millar, but no matter how much it looked like a home run off the bat there was no reason to be lollygagging as much as he was, or for Shelby to be encouraging that behavior.

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Tell you what, if I knew I tagged a ball, and my 1B coach reaches out and shakes my hand as I go by, I'm assuming it's a HR.

My larger point, though, is that Ramon has hit in some tough luck lately. He's been far better than his numbers.

That much is true about the luck, but if Ramon wasn't already in his homer trot, Shelby might not have glad handed him. But at the same time, Shelby should have been watching the ball/ump, and doing his job and actually coaching Ramon. Either telling him to hold up since he had trotted to first, or to start booking it far earlier to make it.

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Yeah, as much as it pains me, we gotta let Trax go out there and try and hold it. This is a long road trip and we don't want to Perlozzo the bullpen.

Yes, it is a long road trip and not even close to over w/o a day off. You gotta wonder if they'll start Trax his next start. I don't see how they possibly can.

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Having Cabrera out there and then trax back to back this season will be awful (Although I don't think this Trax will last) Even though Cabrera is pitching well it usually reminds me of instructional league baseball. You know you throw a kid (This is cabrera)out there to pitch and he throws it backwards, can't throw a strike, hitting kids. And then here comes the coach (Trachsel), and he just floats every ball right down the middle about 3 mph. I thought those guys are exactly like that.

Hopefully cabrera continues to pitch well and is that one kid who actually can pitch in little league.

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So what? Nobody's disagreeing that it looked like a home run. However, until it has actually cleared the fence, it's a ball in play and the batter should be running.

But he thought it had cleared the fence, that's my point. He thought it was gone, and Shelby reaching out and shaking his hand confirmed that to him.

If he had seen that the ball, in fact, did not make it out, it wouldn't have mattered how much he lollygagged to first, he would've made it to second easily.

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That much is true about the luck, but if Ramon wasn't already in his homer trot, Shelby might not have glad handed him.

That much I'll give you -- certainly it's possible that Shelby saw Ramon in the trot and assumed that Ramon had seen the ball go out.

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