Orioles inquired about Melvin Upton, Jr (BlueJays)

[weams]

I'd rather it be that way, but I don't think it would play out in that manner.

I do. And guys get sore feet about this time of the season too.

[weams]

So what is the speculation of what this would cost to get both Upton Jr. and Cashner.

Well it would not be Bundy. And if they are separate deal, I doubt Sisco.

[Rene88]

It does involve Cashner per Ken. That makes sense to me. Throwing in a prospect in a Ubaldo for Upton alone makes no sense.

[fearthenoodle]

Kim is not going to lose his job to Upton. I don't see that happening.

[Rene88]

So what is the speculation of what this would cost to get both Upton Jr. and Cashner.

2 prospects.

[fearthenoodle]

It does involve Cashner per Ken. That makes sense to me. Throwing in a prospect in a Ubaldo for Upton alone makes no sense.

Rosenthal says the two deals would be completely separate.

Yes, a prospect for Upton makes sense. You can't just deal an asset with no value (Jimenez) for an asset with value (Upton) without a prospect included.

[Big Mac]

The failures of this organization in developing pitching needs to be addressed. In order to be addressed, it needs to be recognized and not denied.

I think connecting the failures of the organization to develop pitching to a Ubaldo salary dump is a huge stretch. The two have almost nothing to do with each other.

The guy had almost 1,300 ML innings when we signed him. This has nothing to do with the organization's "failures in developing pitching."

[backwardsk]

It does involve Cashner per Ken. That makes sense to me. Throwing in a prospect in a Ubaldo for Upton alone makes no sense.

I read that as Ubaldo and three prospects for Upton and Cashner. Am I reading that wrong?

[eddie83]

Kim is not going to lose his job to Upton. I don't see that happening.

He won't lose his job, may lose some at bats. Like I said earlier Buck will have to sit one of Alvarez, Upton and Kim vs RHP.

[survivedc]

I sat next to the scout's mom that signed Scott at the Rays game. She was a sharp cookie and she thinks Scott will be great as do many within the organization here, just an FYI. I would not trade Scott.

The scouts mom thinks Scott will be great? I'm sold, Scott should officially be off limits. Someone get DD on the horn.

[fearthenoodle]

He won't lose his job, may lose some at bats. Like I said earlier Buck will have to sit one of Alvarez, Upton and Kim vs RHP.

And logic would dictate you sit the one with bad splits vs. RHP.

[MDK02]

He won't lose his job, may lose some at bats. Like I said earlier Buck will have to sit one of Alvarez, Upton and Kim vs RHP.

That gives up some good depth on the bench for PH situations and base running(Rickard or Upton).

[eddie83]

And logic would dictate you sit the one with bad splits vs. RHP.

Why make the trade then? For 2017 it helps but they shouldn't give up a prospect for a platoon OF. Upton will play vs RHP, just a question of how much.

Are they willing to lose a prospect of some value just to free themselves of Ubaldo?

[Can_of_corn]

And logic would dictate you sit the one with bad splits vs. RHP.

Unless the manager thinks that other factors override the difference in performance.

[Roll Tide]

Well they would also be adding Upton. By the numbers he seems to be covering his salary.

Perhaps the deal with include a starting pitcher and a couple of our prospects