Britton Out 6 months per Rosenthal

[Can_of_corn]

6 minutes ago, wildcard said:

I am not a doctor but Britton stated that the doctor told him that the Achilles did not retracted and therefore the surgery may not be as extensive as if it had retracted.   It will be interesting to see what they say after the surgery today.  

Don't they always say the surgery went well?

[Aglets]

15 hours ago, ExileAngelos said:

And we didn't compete..... 

I do not think this is true.  We were in the playoff hunt in September.   If we had even remotely average SP I think last year goes very very differently..........in a good way.

Either way, I think that shows that losing Britton isn't exactly devastating.

[maybenxtyr]

I didn't think it was a good idea to tender him a $13ish million contract in the first place. Not saying I was right, but a team with limited payroll and in need of 4 or so starters should allocate resources a little better than this.

[Can_of_corn]

37 minutes ago, maybenxtyr said:

I didn't think it was a good idea to tender him a $13ish million contract in the first place. Not saying I was right, but a team with limited payroll and in need of 4 or so starters should allocate resources a little better than this.

The idea may have been to tender him then trade him.

[bobmc]

1 hour ago, Can_of_corn said:

Don't they always say the surgery went well?

Even when they do the wrong limb, joint, tendon, etc.!    Later they may say, "well we did leave a forceps in but it still went well".

[maybenxtyr]

7 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

The idea may have been to tender him then trade him.

You never know with this organization. 13 million is a big gamble either way.

[Redskins Rick]

8 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

The idea may have been to tender him then trade him.

But like it or not, thats the cost of doing business, high end relievers are getting that amount of money.

Its CRAZY.

But so is 31m+ for high end SP.

 

[pastorfan]

5 minutes ago, maybenxtyr said:

You never know with this organization. 13 million is a big gamble either way.

This organization is like the government. It takes them forever to get anything done, then when they do get something done it is the wrong thing!

[webbrick2010]

What they should have done:

Trade him after 2016 for a nice haul

What they should do now:

Release him and re-coup 10 million of payroll

What they will do:

Sign him to a 2-3 year contract, paying for his re-hab and than overpaying him for 2019 and beyond when it turns out that he never returns to anything close to his 2016 form

[Aristotelian]

Do teams have any ability to approve/disapprove of non-sanctioned offseason workouts? I wonder if Angelos smells lawsuit here.

[Redskins Rick]

5 minutes ago, Aristotelian said:

Do teams have any ability to approve/disapprove of non-sanctioned offseason workouts? I wonder if Angelos smells lawsuit here.

Since this was a facility and not somebody back yard. Why do you think it was non-sanctioned?

He was also involved with working out with Brady at times in the off-season, as he had done in the past.

[theobird]

IMO, they have to release Britton. It is a no brainer. I feel bad for Zach but that's the way it goes. He knows that, all of baseball knows that. Had he been on a guaranteed contract, I would feel sorry for the Orioles, and Zach. Its time to move on, and I wish Zach Britton all the best.

[wildcard]

Adam Wainwright is the closest case of a pitcher having Achilles surgery that I can find. The results are not exactly encouraging.

Wainwright missed 5 months of the 2015 season due to the surgery.  He returned in late September and pitched one inning per outing for 3 outings.    He had the winter to rest and rehab.   However he was not effective in his  first 6 weeks on 2016 pitching to a 6.80 ERA through 8 starts.    The video below points out there is a difference between pitching and pitching effectively due to the injury.   He is a starter not a reliever so that may make the results different.   

If Zach follows this path he may be back in game in 4-6 month but he may not be effective for another 6 weeks.  That kind of reminds me of Tillman pitching last year but not being effective.

 

[Redskins Rick]

12 minutes ago, wildcard said:

Adam Wainwright is the closest case of a pitcher having Achilles surgery that I can find. The results are not exactly encouraging.

Wainwright missed 5 months of the 2015 season due to the surgery.  He returned in late September and pitched one inning per outing for 3 outings.    He had the winter to rest and rehab.   However he was not effective in his  first 6 weeks on 2016 pitching to a 6.80 ERA through 8 starts.    The video below points out there is a difference between pitching and pitching effectively due to the injury.   He is a starter not a reliever so that may make the results different.   

If Zach follows this path he may be back in game in 4-6 month but he may not be effective for another 6 weeks.  That kind of reminds me of Tillman pitching last year but not being effective.

 

I think if any pitcher is not 100% healthy, it makes all the difference in the world, in their mechanics and which affects their location and velocity (movement on the ball, not necessary speed of pitch).

[Frobby]

7 hours ago, theobird said:

IMO, they have to release Britton. It is a no brainer. I feel bad for Zach but that's the way it goes. He knows that, all of baseball knows that. Had he been on a guaranteed contract, I would feel sorry for the Orioles, and Zach. Its time to move on, and I wish Zach Britton all the best.

I don’t feel that bad for Zach, at least in a financial sense.   He’ll get his severance and then some other team will risk a couple million to sign him for the second half of 2018.