Adley Rutschman Gets Major League Camp Invite

[scOtt]

2 hours ago, interloper said:

Is there a reason you'd want him on the team before the team is even remotely good though? I'm not for totally abusing his service time, but I definitely want to be efficient in terms of Years Of ML Adley to Years We're Good. 

I'd like to see him get together with all the good pitchers from Delmarva last year. I think they're all heading to Bowie this year. Get AR in line with them and let them form as a unit. Bring the whole bunch to the show in a close time frame. Make the team good as opposed to "when the team is good."

[wildcard]

5 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

He certainly hasn't proven he can hit while recovering from mononucleosis.

I think he did by hitting for an 894 OPS at Aberdeen.

[Can_of_corn]

2 minutes ago, scOtt said:

I'd like to see him get together with all the good pitchers from Delmarva last year. I think they're all heading to Bowie this year. Get AR in line with them and let them form as a unit. Bring the whole bunch to the show in a close time frame. Make the team good as opposed to "when the team is good."

You mean Frederick right?

[Can_of_corn]

Just now, wildcard said:

I think he did by hitting for an 894 OPS at Aberdeen.

Yep, 77 at bats. 

[interloper]

11 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

Yep, 77 at bats. 

 

13 minutes ago, wildcard said:

I think he did by hitting for an 894 OPS at Aberdeen.

Yeah that's kind of like saying Dwight Smith Jr. proved he's a ML quality CO power bat after OPSing .810 in April. 

[wildcard]

4 minutes ago, interloper said:

 

Yeah that's kind of like saying Dwight Smith Jr. proved he's a ML quality CO power bat after OPSing .810 in April. 

Totally different.   Smith is a marginal player that was acquired after being DFA'd.  He has to proven himself over a longer period of time in the majors.

Rutschman is a #1 draft choice in the whole draft playing at low A ball.  The number of at bats needed to move up are  low if he is succeeding.

[Can_of_corn]

I think the only reason he was at any of those levels last year was to help the various minor league teams.  I think he had nothing to prove at any of those levels and if you were going by ability he should have played at Frederick.

[Palmoripken]

Can’t hurt to get him some sessions with some guys he’ll probably be in battery with at some point in the future. Even in LL, I definitely had catchers I liked working with more than others. 

[interloper]

45 minutes ago, wildcard said:

Totally different.   Smith is a marginal player that was acquired after being DFA'd.  He has to proven himself over a longer period of time in the majors.

Rutschman is a #1 draft choice in the whole draft playing at low A ball.  The number of at bats needed to move up are  low if he is succeeding.

I hear ya. 

I think they could make a case for starting him at Frederick, with a shot at bumping to AA mid-late season if he's murdering. That would put him in line for a 2021 call-up, but that's preeettty aggressive. 

[Can_of_corn]

21 minutes ago, interloper said:

I hear ya. 

I think they could make a case for starting him at Frederick, with a shot at bumping to AA mid-late season if he's murdering. That would put him in line for a 2021 call-up, but that's preeettty aggressive. 

It isn't, not for a top five college catcher.

Edit- 2020 would be aggressive, but not without precedent.

Edited January 21, 2020 by Can_of_corn

[Frobby]

3 hours ago, wildcard said:

Rutschman had a 594 OPS at Delmarva in a small number of at bats.    He has not even proven he can hit at that level yet.  He is still getting use to wooden bats IMO.     

I know most fans want Rutschman to begin the season at Frederick.  But I still think he has things to prove at Delmarva.

I hope he moves up fast but I think he should be given the opportunity to succeed at each level before moving up.

I’d be very surprised if he started below Frederick.    However, he’ll be in spring training (major and minor leagues) for 7-8 weeks and they can decide where to place him based on that.    I wouldn’t worry too much about his stats from last year; in his case, how he looks this spring is more important in deciding where to put him.   

[Camden_yardbird]

I think people who expect him up in 2021 and are okay with what has happened this off season are smoking something.

A top prospect is like a top QB draftee.  Good teams dont bring the QB up and hope he brings you to the promise land.  You build a good offensive line and make sure there is a solid foundation in place for success.

Why waste any service time until you have something approximating a ML team.

I look forward to 2027 when I continually see the line "Its great we had Rutschman, it's just too bad we couldnt put something around him."

As for this spring training.  Good. Hes got the skills and needs to see ML quality players.

[Moose Milligan]

3 hours ago, interloper said:

 

Yeah that's kind of like saying Dwight Smith Jr. proved he's a ML quality CO power bat after OPSing .810 in April. 

Dude, CoC loooooooooooooooves DSJR.  Couldn't get enough of him last year, remember?  I want to get a bunch of DSJR baseball cards and mail them to him.  Maybe a big box of them all at once or a steady drip campaign of one card per day until the season starts.

[Can_of_corn]

1 minute ago, Camden_yardbird said:

I think people who expect him up in 2021 and are okay with what has happened this off season are smoking something.

A top prospect is like a top QB draftee.  Good teams dont bring the QB up and hope he brings you to the promise land.  You build a good offensive line and make sure there is a solid foundation in place for success.

Why waste any service time until you have something approximating a ML team.

I look forward to 2027 when I continually see the line "Its great we had Rutschman, it's just too bad we couldnt put something around him."

As for this spring training.  Good. Hes got the skills and needs to see ML quality players.

Odds are good 2028 Rutschman isn't going to be a difference maker.

I don't see how you can make a case to keep him down for all of 2021 if he's playing at the level we expect. 

Honestly the O's keeping him from a years worth of free agent income by refusing to promote him should result in some punitive action against the team.

[Can_of_corn]

4 minutes ago, Moose Milligan said:

Dude, CoC loooooooooooooooves DSJR.  Couldn't get enough of him last year, remember?  I want to get a bunch of DSJR baseball cards and mail them to him.  Maybe a big box of them all at once or a steady drip campaign of one card per day until the season starts.

Go for it, I've got a fireplace.

Not like I was wrong about him when folks were talking him up after a hot spring.