Marlins Open to Trading from Pitching Surplus

[StillanOfan]

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2022/08/marlins-open-to-trading-from-rotation-surplus-again-this-offseason.html

A new article on the Marlins interest in possibly trading from their pitching surplus for offensive help.

[sportsfan8703]

But we need offense too. 

[PHRESH]

1 hour ago, sportsfan8703 said:

But we need offense too. 

I can think of someone down in AAA 

[ShoelesJoe]

So is anybody in our minor leagues untouchable at this point? I mean in practical terms. Would Elias consider something like Alcantara for Henderson + Westburg ? Is that enough from our end to get it done? Or not enough? I would hope that if we're dealing position prospects for pitching prospects Miami would have to offer higher end talent simply because TINSTAAPP. 

 

EDIT: I see from the article that the Marlins consider Alcantara and Eury Pérez off limits. I find that odd since Alcantara is set to make $70 million over the next five years, and Miami has historically been penny pinchers. 

Edited August 30, 2022 by ShoelesJoe

[Sports Guy]

7 hours ago, ShoelesJoe said:

So is anybody in our minor leagues untouchable at this point? I mean in practical terms. Would Elias consider something like Alcantara for Henderson + Westburg ? Is that enough from our end to get it done? Or not enough? I would hope that if we're dealing position prospects for pitching prospects Miami would have to offer higher end talent simply because TINSTAAPP. 

 

EDIT: I see from the article that the Marlins consider Alcantara and Eury Pérez off limits. I find that odd since Alcantara is set to make $70 million over the next five years, and Miami has historically been penny pinchers. 

They just signed him.

[waroriole]

Would be nice to get Lopez. What would it take?

 

[Sports Guy]

Mullins to Miami makes a lot of sense.

They could also use Hays or Santander and if the Os look to move Mateo, Miami is a fit there as well.

[waroriole]

Just now, Sports Guy said:

Mullins to Miami makes a lot of sense.

They could also use Hays or Santander and if the Os look to move Mateo, Miami is a fit there as well.

Moving Hays/Santander makes a lot more sense than Mullins. We don’t have a logical backup in CF and Mullins has the highest ceiling. 

[Sports Guy]

Just now, waroriole said:

Moving Hays/Santander makes a lot more sense than Mullins. We don’t have a logical backup in CF and Mullins has the highest ceiling. 

Well, that does depend on Cowser.  Some feel he is a CFer and if the Os do feel that way, he could slide in quickly.

You can also acquire a CFer by other means, like signing Kiermeier for example.

Mullins is a good player but I do question where he is in 2-3 years and if you can use him to get good young pitching and you can keep your better prospects, I’m all for that.

[sportsfan8703]

5 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

Mullins to Miami makes a lot of sense.

They could also use Hays or Santander and if the Os look to move Mateo, Miami is a fit there as well.

I think we will see Elias slowly move Hays, Santander, and Mountcastle, in favor of the younger guys. However, I think we could make a run at pitching, but we’d likely deal our “vet” bats for prospect returns. 
 

We won’t be bringing back Lyles. I could see Santander and Tate traded this offseason. Both would be selling high, and both are in arbitration.  So maybe we make a run at a FA SP, and keep all of our prospects. 

[Sports Guy]

16 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

Well, that does depend on Cowser.  Some feel he is a CFer and if the Os do feel that way, he could slide in quickly.

You can also acquire a CFer by other means, like signing Kiermeier for example.

Mullins is a good player but I do question where he is in 2-3 years and if you can use him to get good young pitching and you can keep your better prospects, I’m all for that.

https://www.masnsports.com/orioles-rss/cowser-s-move-to-next-level-is-felt-in-orioles-outfield

[Ceciltrav]

20 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

Well, that does depend on Cowser.  Some feel he is a CFer and if the Os do feel that way, he could slide in quickly.

You can also acquire a CFer by other means, like signing Kiermeier for example.

Mullins is a good player but I do question where he is in 2-3 years and if you can use him to get good young pitching and you can keep your better prospects, I’m all for that.

Do you think the White Sox at least listen if we do Hays + Westburg +Jackson for Dylan Cease?  Is that enough?  Is it too much?

[Sports Guy]

6 minutes ago, Ceciltrav said:

Do you think the White Sox at least listen if we do Hays + Westburg +Jackson for Dylan Cease?  Is that enough?  Is it too much?

Jackson?  As in Holliday?

[wildcard]

Hard for me to believe that Cowser has Mullins speed and range in CF.  Seem more like Hays in  a corner OF spot. 

The move of Cowser and Ortiz to AAA is significant.

 I am not sure the need for starters is as dire as it once was.   Tyler Wells, Kremer, Bradish and Voth have been pretty convincing this year.   Grayson has a spot in next years rotation.    I would not discount the possibility of Lyles returning as a innings eater.  Hall is an unknown. And then there in Means by mid season.   Holt is showing he has the ability to develop pitchers.

Edited August 30, 2022 by wildcard

[sportsfan8703]

9 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

Jackson?  As in Holliday?

Maybe like a Michael or Janet Jackson CD. Holliday is untouchable. 
 

I think next year will depend if Elias thinks we have a realistic shot to win the division. Do the Yankees lose Judge?  Hopefully. 

My prediction is that we go the FA route for a SP on a 3 year deal. I don’t think we’re ready to pull the trigger on a Cole or Verlander type deal yet. Our secondary prospects need a little bit more hype. Trade deadline time next year will probably be really interesting.