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Moose Milligan
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Yeah, I value on base percentage a lot more than batting average. Batting average is neat if you’ve got a guy like Ichiro or Boggs or Gwynn. But OBP is, IMO, the far better metric.    However,

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Batting average is just another stat. It has predictive value. It is well correlated with OBP. I have a hard time understanding the general herd-mind snobbery that comes out whenever anyone menti

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Yes.  And you know I love playing professor Drungo. There are so few things in the world where someone can say "you're the guy for this thing." It's hyper-nerdy in an unbelievably small niche, but thi

Can_of_corn Hangout Grand Counsel

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2 minutes ago, JR Oriole said:

Bill Ripken hit .291 in 1990.  Bradley was .270 and I think Orsulak was .269.

The fact that none of our hitters had a remotely good batting average is kind of incredible. 

 

No one, outside of fans, prioritizes batting average.

Do you get on base?

Do you do damage when you make contact?

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7 hours ago, Can_of_corn said:

No one, outside of fans, prioritizes batting average.

Do you get on base?

Do you do damage when you make contact?

Yeah, I value on base percentage a lot more than batting average. Batting average is neat if you’ve got a guy like Ichiro or Boggs or Gwynn. But OBP is, IMO, the far better metric. 
 

However, if we had a guy making a race for a batting title this board would be all in. Maybe except for you because you’re a curmudgeon and @DrungoHazewoodbecause he’d be telling us all about how Hot Cakes O’Houlihan had it harder in the 1896 Federal League. 

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7 hours ago, Natty said:

Mancini batted .268 with the Orioles this year. 

Not enough PAs to qualify. Players need 3.1 PAs per game (501 PAs in 162 games). Trey only had 401 PAs with the O’s this year.

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8 hours ago, Can_of_corn said:

No one, outside of fans, prioritizes batting average.

Do you get on base?

Do you do damage when you make contact?

Batting average is just another stat. It has predictive value. It is well correlated with OBP.

I have a hard time understanding the general herd-mind snobbery that comes out whenever anyone mentions Batting Average.

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I think it is a positive (I think), that the team greatly exceeded expectations but not a single position player exceeded personal expectations with many (Mullins, Hays, Mountcastle) well below. What does it looks like if the all hit .270 + next year?

Of course quite a few unexpected pitchers stepped forward

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1 hour ago, jdwilde1 said:

Not enough PAs to qualify. Players need 3.1 PAs per game (501 PAs in 162 games). Trey only had 401 PAs with the O’s this year.

I know that. Just sayin'. He was leading the team in batting when we dumped him and no one could ever catch up to his BA.  

But in the overall scheme of things we did save 50 cents. 

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Average team batting average this year was 243. 4 of the last 5 years it’s been under 250. 

Other than the WS, the teams who had the best BA were the highest scoring teams in the league.

Yankees and Astros were only teams outside of the top 10 in BA that were top 10 in runs. Astros BA was ranked 12th and Yankees was 15th.

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1 hour ago, Moose Milligan said:

Yeah, I value on base percentage a lot more than batting average. Batting average is neat if you’ve got a guy like Ichiro or Boggs or Gwynn. But OBP is, IMO, the far better metric. 
 

However, if we had a guy making a race for a batting title this board would be all in. Maybe except for you because you’re a curmudgeon and @DrungoHazewoodbecause he’d be telling us all about how Hot Cakes O’Houlihan had it harder in the 1896 Federal League. 

a) The Federal League was 1914-15. Do I have to hold another remedial class?  I mean, c'mon, Baltimore Terrapins, the Supreme Court case that led to the anti-trust exemption, Jack Dunn moving the minor league Orioles to Richmond for a year because the Feds built their park across the street from his so 1915 is the only year since 1900 there were no Baltimore Orioles... this is basic stuff.

b) The Federal League was approximately as hard as A ball today

c) Batting average races are awesome, especially when someone is hitting like .390.  

d) No one really cares about batting average in a vacuum, but I certainly prefer a league that hits .280 to one that hits .240

e) The Majors hit .243 in 2022. Lowest mark since 1968, second-lowest since 1908.  With a league with as much depth and quality as we have today and a .243 overall average it's near impossible for someone to hit .350, much less .380 or .400.  So let's move the mound back 3'.

f) Strikeouts are driving the lower batting averages, because when you only make contact 75% of the time you have to hit like .375 on balls in play to have a decent average and that's very hard.  Again, let's move the mound back.

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