Coby Mayo 2023

[Yossarian]

1 minute ago, Yossarian said:

I thought that was Basallo's position?  I'm looking forward to 5 years of Holliday, Henderson, Mayo, Kjerstad, Basallo, Rutschman as the first 6 in the order.   That would be fun. 

Followed by Westburg, Beavers, and Bradfield

[Frobby]

5 hours ago, Yossarian said:

I thought that was Basallo's position?  I'm looking forward to 5 years of Holliday, Henderson, Mayo, Kjerstad, Basallo, Rutschman as the first 6 in the order.   That would be fun. 

That’s only happening if Adley gets a contract extension, since he’s only under control for 4 more years.  

[RZNJ]

34 minutes ago, Frobby said:

That’s only happening if Adley gets a contract extension, since he’s only under control for 4 more years.  

Good chance Basallo is ready by 2025 if not sooner.

[deward]

10 hours ago, Yossarian said:

I thought that was Basallo's position?  I'm looking forward to 5 years of Holliday, Henderson, Mayo, Kjerstad, Basallo, Rutschman as the first 6 in the order.   That would be fun. 

That's more of a 2025 problem, at the soonest. And someone has to DH. I think the window with all of those guys is more like 3 years, unless some extensions happen.

[ShoelesJoe]

17 hours ago, deward said:

The only way Mayo gets a shot at 3b is if Gunnar stays at short, Holliday shifts to 2b, and Westburg loses his job. 

Your terms are acceptable. 

Westburg "loses his job" only in that he becomes a thrice a week super-sub allowing Hyde to rest the other guys. 

[scarey1999]

With all due respect to Westy, who I really like as a player, he’s already a few months away from being 25. Mayo is tracking to be a much better and more valuable prospect than Westburg ever was given what he showed in his age 21 season. I realize Westburg may have pretty good defensive value as some sort of super utility type, but it’s pretty clear the Orioles don’t trust him at the dish against RHP.

I’m in the camp that believes Westburg is on Elias’ trade commodity list.  It would not be surprising to see him moved sometime between end of this season and next trade deadline.  

Basallo obviously can’t play 3rd, and we’re presuming he’d split time between C and 1B, so this also helps with the thinking of trying to keep Mayo at 3rd long term. I don’t think Mounty is on the team any longer by the time Basallo is ready, so this would free up ABs for Basallo + who over else we run out there at 1st in ‘25. 

So, here’s to hoping Mayo continues to improve his footwork and overall defense at 3rd and he puts all this talk to bed. 

BTW he made a really nice play recently (playoff game I think?), charging in from 3rd on a softly hit ball and throwing to 1st for the out. It was definitely a MLB caliber play. He made it look easy, showing off that laser rocket arm too. 

[Gurgi]

Milb had a show on the MLB channel and named Mayo one of the top prospects at third in all baseball.  

[Frobby]

31 minutes ago, Gurgi said:

Milb had a show on the MLB channel and named Mayo one of the top prospects at third in all baseball.  

Hard to argue.  But that still doesn’t mean he ends up at 3B on the Orioles.  

[IPlayGM]

On 9/30/2023 at 12:38 AM, deward said:

Unless they decide to move Holliday off of short, then there's no opening at 3b. The only way Mayo gets a shot at 3b is if Gunnar stays at short, Holliday shifts to 2b, and Westburg loses his job. Possible, but I think it's a lot more likely that Mayo ends up usurping Mountcastle. 

I’m not sure I see a scenario where Holliday moves Gunnar off of short other than him being much more superior with the glove, which seems doubtful. As much as everyone (including me) loves Jackson, Gunnar is the alpha male at this point. And you don’t move the alpha male off of his position for any other reason than someone else is better there.

[deward]

1 hour ago, IPlayGM said:

I’m not sure I see a scenario where Holliday moves Gunnar off of short other than him being much more superior with the glove, which seems doubtful. As much as everyone (including me) loves Jackson, Gunnar is the alpha male at this point. And you don’t move the alpha male off of his position for any other reason than someone else is better there.

It's not like Gunnar hasn't logged plenty of time at third this year. I'm confident that Elias and Hyde will do what's best for the team when it comes to positional alignments, and that Gunnar will play where he's needed without making it a problem.

[orioles22]

Elias said Ortiz would soon be playing short for someone in the majors. I still think it's the Orioles. Everyone seems to forget him. We have several good shortstops. I think Gunnar is, by far, the best option at third.

[Sports Guy]

36 minutes ago, orioles22 said:

Elias said Ortiz would soon be playing short for someone in the majors. I still think it's the Orioles. Everyone seems to forget him. We have several good shortstops. I think Gunnar is, by far, the best option at third.

People keep saying this quote as if it means anything.

GM speak is just that…talk. Its talk without meaning.

[orioles22]

1 hour ago, Sports Guy said:

People keep saying this quote as if it means anything.

GM speak is just that…talk. Its talk without meaning.

I'm sure some of it is that, but I don't think everything said is meaningless or a lie. So, you don't think Ortiz will be playing short for a major league team next year?

[Sports Guy]

7 minutes ago, orioles22 said:

I'm sure some of it is that, but I don't think everything said is meaningless or a lie. So, you don't think Ortiz will be playing short for a major league team next year?

I think the part that people are grasping onto that means nothing is the part about him being a SS for the Os.

Im not saying it can’t happen, I’m just saying that Elias saying it means nothing. I wouldn’t expect him to say anything different for various reasons.

[orioles22]

1 hour ago, Sports Guy said:

I think the part that people are grasping onto that means nothing is the part about him being a SS for the Os.

Im not saying it can’t happen, I’m just saying that Elias saying it means nothing. I wouldn’t expect him to say anything different for various reasons.

It may depend on if he brought Ortiz up or there was a specific question. I don't think he had to go as far as to say he would be a starting shortstop in the majors.