ALDS Game 2 - Revenge of the O's

[Gentile4]

1 minute ago, spiritof66 said:

To me, pitch framing is a lot like flopping in basketball or soccer--an attempt to make something look like it happened even though it didn't actually happen. Those other sports tolerated the ruse for a while, and then tried to deter it by punishing the flopper. One difference is that pitch framing is much easier to detect, punish and deter. Just make it league policy that if the catcher moves his glove other than to catch the ball, it's not a strike.

I coached high school fast pitch for a long time, and between innings of a close game,  the umpire pulled my catcher aside to talk. He told her to stop insulting his intelligence with exaggerated pitch framing, that he's familiar with the strike zone. I had to smile. I don't understand why umps don't call out the catchers in MLB.

[Malike]

Just now, Jagwar said:

Has a position player ever pitched in a playoff game?

Pretty sure they will just run Flaherty out there unless they score some runs and get back into the game.

[drjohnnyfever1]

13 minutes ago, Brian88 said:

Flaherty pitching into the 6th inning, just like we hoped when we traded for him 

Thank you, sir!  Well played. lol

[Malike]

[drjohnnyfever1]

1 minute ago, Malike said:

Pretty sure they will just run Flaherty out there unless they score some runs and get back into the game.

Yep.  The eater roll; but if we manage a rally, there are still a couple bullets in the chamber.

[laxtonto]

2 minutes ago, Jagwar said:

Has a position player ever pitched in a playoff game?

Austin Romine, Yankees (2018 ALDS Game 3)

Cliff Pennington, Blue Jays (2015 ALCS Game 4)

[MDK02]

How many teams have ever come back from being down 0-2 and won the series. I can’t imagine many. 

[Malike]

Mateo should be on first.

[Malike]

Second is even better.

[Sports Guy]

They had to have Mateo take 2 pitches in a row.

edit: at least it worked out

Edited October 8, 2023 by Sports Guy

[OnlyOneOriole]

13 minutes ago, spiritof66 said:

To me, pitch framing is a lot like flopping in basketball or soccer--an attempt to make something look like it happened even though it didn't actually happen. Those other sports tolerated the ruse for a while, and then tried to deter it by punishing the flopper. One difference is that pitch framing is much easier to detect, punish and deter. Just make it league policy that if the catcher moves his glove other than to catch the ball, it's not a strike.

There was a pitch that GR threw in the first inning where AR caught a strike that wasn't called and very obviously moved his glove in a manner that said "look at me....I am pitch framing".

 

Ump called it a ball.

 

 

There was a pitch in the same first inning where the Rangers catcher caught a very obvious ball and the ump called it a strike, all because the catcher caught the ball and moved it into the strike zone almost through osmosis.

 

It was cool to see. Kind of like seeing a dancer who has no rhythm and one who does.

AR  has no rhythm. 

Edited October 8, 2023 by OnlyOneOriole

[oriolediehard]

Our mediocre pitching showed against heavy hitting Texas. No match.

[banks703]

Love seeing Jorge’s successful days 

[dtk9119]

Mateo trying to make it harder for Elias to cut him loose in the off-season 

[tntoriole]

10 minutes ago, spiritof66 said:

To me, pitch framing is a lot like flopping in basketball or soccer--an attempt to make something look like it happened even though it didn't actually happen. Those other sports tolerated the ruse for a while, and then tried to deter it by punishing the flopper. One difference is that pitch framing is much easier to detect, punish and deter. Just make it league policy that if the catcher moves his glove other than to catch the ball, it's not a strike.

The amount of time and energy catchers and their coaches put into developing this skill is considerable.  And framing “stats” are part of whether a catcher is judged. 
And the same umpires that can’t see strikes now and are easily fooled by framing are unlikely to be able to see “moving”. 
Nope.. I want balls and strikes determined by cameras like lines are judged in tennis