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Coming into this past season, I had high hopes that the Orioles could win a World Series in the next five years.  The Yankees seemed to be getting older, the Sox were a bit of a mess, Toronto seemed like it was missing its window, and the Rays have similar financial restraints to the Orioles.  On the horizon in other divisions, Houston appeared to be getting older, Seattle could be up and coming but didn't seem to have insurmountable talent, and the Rangers appeared to be buying a title which almost never works.

The rise of Seattle and the Rangers now has me very worried.  This Rangers team is only going to get better.  They have deGrom coming back.  Seager is still young and Jung is a stud.  Wyatt Langford who they just drafted looks like a stud and so does Evan Carter.  They have a combination of willingness to spend and young talent that is scary for the foreseeable future.  The also don't seem to really miss on free agents like the NYY often do.  Seattle looks more dangerous because they just keep pumping out high end starters.  They can fill in the hitting holes either through trades or free agency.

It's not that I am down on the Orioles, but other teams look to have a better future than it appeared at the beginning of the year.  I have preached patience and still will to a certain degree, but this team is going to need to really fortify their starting pitching and the guys available for trade don't seem to be the equivalent of a Verlander-type that Houston traded for years ago.   

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2 minutes ago, baltfan said:

I definitely think the Sox are a sleeping giant and their change of management has me worried.

And they have some good MiL talent too.

They have a lot of work to do and even if they sign Shohei, he can’t pitch in 2024 but this team is definitely one to watch for.

 

Btw, current odds have the Os as the 6th most likely AL team to win the WS.

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I’m not worried. We have a wealth of talent to work with. Elias drafted hitters predominantly because they get injured less and are more projectable than pitchers. He didn’t do that so he could hoard hitters. Management won’t constrain him from trading that depth. I think this is the offseason he pulls the trigger and acquires a young top starter. Will that give us our Maddux, Smoltz, Glavine? No, but if we want to build a dynasty that should be the blueprint. 

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13 minutes ago, wildcard said:

GRod, Bradish and Means will be hard to beat.

How many innings do you predict each of these guys will pitch in 2024?

Gray Rod career high (122 IP in majors + 41 in minors = 163 IP)

Bradish career high - 168.2 IP

Means career high - 155 IP (obviously pre TJ surgery)

I think it's unlikely more than 2 of these guys clear 180 innings next year and even that is probably optimistic.

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