Kyle Bradish Has Sprained UCL, Will Start Season On IL (4/9 Update: Assigned rehab assignment w/Aberdeen)

[Just Regular]

Aaron Nola's story was recalled a lot about this time last year as the Phillies were going through this bad news with Andrew Painter.

https://www.delcotimes.com/2023/03/12/nola-knows-what-painter-is-going-through/

No two ligament injuries are identical. A diagnosis of a mild strain, as both issues have been characterized, covers a sizeable range of stretching or tearing.

Nola was 23 and in his second season in the big leagues when he was shut down in August 2016. He had made 20 starts before hearing a pop in what he had hoped was his triceps against Atlanta. At 111 innings and the Phillies nowhere near playoff relevance, he was set to soon hit his innings limit anyway.

So he basically got a head start on his offseason program. What started as four weeks of rest became eight, with a platelet-rich plasma (PRP) injection to speed healing. He resumed throwing in November, shut it down for the year in December and was ready to go in the spring of 2017.

In fact, his rehab forced him to re-evaluate parts of his delivery, reworking a longer stride and more prominent leg drive. In five non-pandemic seasons since, he’s never failed to make fewer than 27 starts.

“Spring training 2017 was like a new pitching form, which was kind of cool,” Nola said. “I learned how to use my legs in that aspect of getting hurt. For me, it was a blessing in disguise. I didn’t want to get hurt, but it taught me some things.”

[Hallas]

30 minutes ago, interloper said:

The data I want to know is, how many of those 62% eventually had the surgery within the next 3 years? 

None.  If you required surgery at any time within 5 years of the initial injection it was counted as an unsuccessful treatment.

 

However, a high percentage of the successful nonsurgical treatments required a second PRP injection and took 6 months or more before returning to play.

 

Here's the article text: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7983438/

Edited February 15 by Hallas

[Philip]

2 hours ago, Moose Milligan said:

Dude, do your own research.  

There are enough variables that merely saying ,” X percentage of pitchers get it at some point,” isn’t very revealing.

If it’s just a partial tear, for instance, what percentage defines partial vs significant or other such vague descriptor? 

Regardless, it is always prudent to prepare for the worst.  I’m just curious; if Elias knew about this in January, then getting Burnes was treading water instead of adding something, so he knew he’d need another starter. 

[SteveA]

52 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

Tanaka never got it.

Unicorn.

The equivalent of believing a soft tosser will be successful because Jamie Moyer.

[TopGunnar]

18 minutes ago, wildbillhiccup said:

How long have you been defending the character of a stranger? 

Im not defending a single part of his character. I’m defending him as a player. I want him on the Orioles to help us win games. I don’t care what his character is. There’s plenty of shitty people rostered in the MLB.

[SteveA]

33 minutes ago, jcaponio said:

That study was done on injured pitchers, not a bunch of fatsos who work in cubicles. 

Man I'm just sitting here minding my own business and you have to go insulting me!

[oriolediehard]

I am sooo dissappointed, the 1st day and we already have injuries.  I am sure the rest of the AL East is happy.  I wish would act on this very quickly. I agree, it be worth giving Bauer a shot, or go after Cease before the Yankees get him. We have a chance to rectify this situation, I wish Elias would act on urgently.

[ScGO's]

2 hours ago, Sports Guy said:

Why would Boston make that trade?

They want someone to take Jensen's salary, they need some RH depth hitters, especially in the OF. Not a great trade for them as far as return, but we are taking the whole 16 mil salary.

[Philip]

2 hours ago, Number5 said:

We need you to start liking pitchers on other teams!

Maybe Spenser Watkins is available?

[Hank Scorpio]

1 hour ago, wildbillhiccup said:

"Fairly competent" isn't worth all the other baggage IMO. 

Yesterday, I would have agreed with you. 

Today, not so much. 

[OsFanSinceThe80s]

1 minute ago, Hank Scorpio said:

Yesterday, I would have agreed with you. 

Today, not so much. 

All I'm going to say on Trevor Bauer is if the Orioles are going to even consider such a move I'd run it by the clubhouse. If the Orioles players are good playing along side Bauer then sign him if Elias thinks it's the right move.

[webbrick2010]

4 hours ago, RVAOsFan said:

ng program tomorrow we should know soon if the injecti

190 innings of 2022 Kyle Gibson would have been nice to book on, but we were going to upgrade the rotation.

[Frobby]

1 hour ago, jcaponio said:

62% doesn't seem like "rarely" to me, but nobody can say for sure without having access to his medical records.

https://twitter.com/LockedOnOrioles/status/1758155638876581923/photo/1

There’s tons of nuance to this that we don’t know.   A complete tear is one thing, and a partial tear is something else.  Then even within partial tears, I’m sure there are degrees of severity.   It’s pretty clear this is not a full tear, and we don’t know how severe a partial tear this is.  I’m sure an experienced specialist who’s actually treated Bradish can give Elias a much clearer prognosis than you or I can give by Googling around on medical websites.   So, I’m not going to speculate on whether Bradish can reasonably be expected to recover, and how soon.   But I’m going to take what Elias says at face value. 

[dystopia]

Just now, Frobby said:

There’s tons of nuance to this that we don’t know.   A complete tear is one thing, and a partial tear is something else.  Then even within partial tears, I’m sure there are degrees of severity.   It’s pretty clear this is not a full tear, and we don’t know how severe a partial tear this is.  I’m sure an experienced specialist who’s actually treated Bradish can give Elias a much clearer prognosis than you or I can give by Googling around on medical websites.   So, I’m not going to speculate on whether Bradish can reasonably be expected to recover, and how soon.   But I’m going to take what Elias says at face value. 

I'm getting de ja vu here.

[jcaponio]

1 minute ago, Frobby said:

There’s tons of nuance to this that we don’t know.   A complete tear is one thing, and a partial tear is something else.  Then even within partial tears, I’m sure there are degrees of severity.   It’s pretty clear this is not a full tear, and we don’t know how severe a partial tear this is.  I’m sure an experienced specialist who’s actually treated Bradish can give Elias a much clearer prognosis than you or I can give by Googling around on medical websites.   So, I’m not going to speculate on whether Bradish can reasonably be expected to recover, and how soon.   But I’m going to take what Elias says at face value. 

Yes, this is my point exactly. I posted this in response to the people saying that it's 100% certain that Bradish will need Tommy John surgery and that Elias is lying when he says he expects Bradish to return this season.