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Andy MacPhail - Disappointing GM

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Crazysilver03 Hangout Grand Counsel

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Well I suspect he would have been killed in the AL East, but we also play about 55% of our games against other divisions. And he would have also helped up from having to call up Matusz too early.

Oh there were takers for Huff at $8MM prior to this season, which just didn't hear about it publicly. AM needed the power bat and didn't foresee a huge decline so that's why he didn't pursue a trade.

I don't think Matusz was called up too early. We had other options we could have brought up. MacPhail viewed Matusz as ready and as such he made his major league debut.

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Well I suspect he would have been killed in the AL East, but we also play about 55% of our games against other divisions. And he would have also helped up from having to call up Matusz too early.

Oh there were takers for Huff at $8MM prior to this season, which just didn't hear about it publicly. AM needed the power bat and didn't foresee a huge decline so that's why he didn't pursue a trade.

Randy Wolf also has been injury plagued recently, I think. Maybe that was part of the problem in not wanting to take the risk.

As for Huff. I don't remember seeing a fit at the deadline last year. And I can't really think of a fit this offseason either. Certainly nothing was public. Who do you think would have offered him something this offseason?

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I don't think Matusz was called up too early. We had other options we could have brought up. MacPhail viewed Matusz as ready and as such he made his major league debut.

Matusz would never have been called up if there weren't injuries and lack of pitching depth. He was our 11th pitcher to get a start this year. And all along AM and DT said they weren't going to promote him, but the circumstances changed and they were basically forced to since he was the best option.

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Matusz would never have been called up if there weren't injuries and lack of pitching depth. He was our 11th pitcher to get a start this year. And all along AM and DT said they weren't going to promote him, but the circumstances changed and they were basically forced to since he was the best option.

If they were interested in a stopgap option they could have called up Chris Waters. I truly believe they thought/think Matusz is ready for the majors.

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And it's amazing to me how much speculation there is that MacPhail will suddenly change the way he's pursued premium FAs.

It's all conjecture really.

So what does it say about you, when you admittedly take nothing but conjecture and extrapolate that out to Andy MacPhail is and will always be a disappointment?

People here don't know everything about me, but I'd hope most of them aren't filling in the blanks with the worst possible assumptions and speculation.

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Matusz would never have been called up if there weren't injuries and lack of pitching depth. He was our 11th pitcher to get a start this year. And all along AM and DT said they weren't going to promote him, but the circumstances changed and they were basically forced to since he was the best option.

Yes Matusz got his opportunity because of injuries but it isn't like he didnt earn the opportunity.

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Randy Wolf also has been injury plagued recently, I think. Maybe that was part of the problem in not wanting to take the risk.

As for Huff. I don't remember seeing a fit at the deadline last year. And I can't really think of a fit this offseason either. Certainly nothing was public. Who do you think would have offered him something this offseason?

San Francisco, Detroit, Seattle, Atlanta just to name a few

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Yes Matusz got his opportunity because of injuries but it isn't like he didnt earn the opportunity.

Matusz definately deserves to be up here. He earned it and was dominating in AA. No one was dominating in AAA so go with what is working. Matusz will be that much better come next season from getting the chance to pitch now in the majors.

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Yes Matusz got his opportunity because of injuries but it isn't like he didnt earn the opportunity.

Well yes he earned it, but that's not the point. The point is that he would have never been a candidate if AM's SP 2009 staff fillers panned out a little longer than 1/2 the season.

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San Francisco, Detroit, Seattle, Atlanta just to name a few

Atlanta has Kochtman at first and Chipper at third to start the season.

Detroit had Guillen and Cabrera at 3B/1B. Possibly Huff as a DH, I could see that.

Seattle has Beltre at 3B. They have Branyan at first now. But were they really planning on competing this year after a 100 loss season?

SF - Kind of same thing. Were they looking to compete where they needed a one year rental?

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