Johnson may be traded per Rosenthal (Update: Johnson trade to A's for Weeks)

[fearthenoodle]

Jim Johnson for Scott Van Slyke. I think that is the deal I'd try to make. Then spend that $10M elsewhere.

[fearthenoodle]

Stupid question, what is AAV that i keep hearing about?

Average annual value

[zxlkho]

Stupid question, what is AAV that i keep hearing about?

Average Annual Value

[jamalshw]

JJ for Ethier would cripple this team.

I doubt DD is that stupid.

I don't think it necessarily would cripple the O's, particularly if there is $ coming back to Baltimore.

The difference in 2014 between Johnson and Ethier is likely only about $5M. Then in 2015-2017 the amount is largely negated by Markakis coming off the books. If you can get them to throw in $6M or so a year over the last few years it could be reasonable, particularly given the insanity of contracts being handed out this offseason.

[clarence]

I would be surprised if we weren't also talking to the Dodgers about a trade with Wieters involved. All the money they have invested in pitching, he has to be interesting to them.

[markakis8]

I know there's no chance, but I would do Jim Johnson for Joc Pederson straight up.

But someone like Scott Schebler the Dodgers would be willing to part with. Big power season in AA, OF and still young. Bats left.

[Can_of_corn]

And now this:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>It's Cyber Monday for MLB: Orioles could non-tender Johnson to avoid arbitration <a href="http://t.co/35bvFmjmEd">http://t.co/35bvFmjmEd</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23orioles&src=hash">#orioles</a></p>— Peter Gammons (@pgammo) <a href="

">December 2, 2013</a></blockquote>

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[clapdiddy]

And now this:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>It's Cyber Monday for MLB: Orioles could non-tender Johnson to avoid arbitration <a href="http://t.co/35bvFmjmEd">http://t.co/35bvFmjmEd</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23orioles&src=hash">#orioles</a></p>— Peter Gammons (@pgammo) <a href="

">December 2, 2013</a></blockquote>

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Wow...that would really suck. I wonder if we might see something done very soon on this?

[Hank Scorpio]

And now this:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>It's Cyber Monday for MLB: Orioles could non-tender Johnson to avoid arbitration <a href="http://t.co/35bvFmjmEd">http://t.co/35bvFmjmEd</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23orioles&src=hash">#orioles</a></p>— Peter Gammons (@pgammo) <a href="

">December 2, 2013</a></blockquote>

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:laughlol:

[Redskins Rick]

:laughlol:

Thats funny, considering they are supposed to tender all 9.

[zxlkho]

Peter Gammons in 2013 makes me laugh.

[Redskins Rick]

http://www.masnsports.com/school_of_roch/2013/12/will-jim-johnson-remain-an-oriole.html

[Can_of_corn]

Wow...that would really suck. I wonder if we might see something done very soon on this?

Tonight is the deadline so yes, very soon.

BTW I am not saying I think Gammons is right. He would be better served by just having an intern tweet what his sources tell him at this point.

[Redskins Rick]

Tonight is the deadline so yes, very soon.

BTW I am not saying I think Gammons is right. He would be better served by just having an intern tweet what his sources tell him at this point.

Unless maybe it's inside information.

[Nigel Tufnel]

Peter Gammons in 2013 makes me laugh.

I dunno, Britt also seems to be hinting that a non-tender is a possibility.

http://brittghiroli.mlblogs.com/2013/12/02/os-trying-to-trade-johnson/

Also, it's hard to argue with anything that Gammons wrote:

Now, clubs are reluctant to go to eight figures on closers, so even though Johnson has 101 saves and only 33 walks the last two years and is a giant clubhouse presence, he is virtually untradeable, unless Johnson shows up on the Dodgers? Amazon wish list; And here is another problem: the two options should they dump Johnson are Tommy Hunter and Darren O?Day, against whom opposing lefthanded hitters had .857 and .922 OPS numbers. Yich. Maintaining the ability to compete in the American League East on a lower middle class payroll is getting increasingly problematic for the Orioles.