Jump to content

We're going to walk this guy the next guy is going to hit into a double play and we're gonna go home


weams

Recommended Posts

  • Replies 80
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Gotta say, most managers wouldn't have taken that risk. It could have ended bad, but I'm glad Buck had the guts to put It all on the line and take that risk. It ended the game, the series and gives the players more time to rest before the ALCS. BUCKle up! Love the guy.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Bottom of the 9th, runner on 2nd base with one out and the Tigers down by one run. The Book says you never put the winning run on base, but Buck did. Are there situations when it makes sense?

I was amazed when I went back and looked at the game thread and saw some of the comments immediately following the decision. I had made a comment that it was a gutsy call and then quoted SteveA who had made the comment I did in the first paragraph here.

Many comments that followed in the GT still held that it was a bad decision even after it was successful. I would argue that many of you have never managed a LL game let alone one at the ML level.

What many critics fail to realize is that there are times when you throw out convention because you have information. Buck knows that the Tiger bench was thin and that we were at the bottom of the order in a lineup where we had already seen their most dangerous hitters.

Yes, you never put on the winning run, but if you aren't taking into consideration that Andrew Romine or Hernan Perez are more likely to hit into a DP with a sinker ball pitcher then your place as an armchair tactician is safe.

That's why Buck gets paid to make these decisions.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I love Buck so much that I had absolutely no doubt that it was going to play out exactly that way. To my surprise, I was calm and confident when they walked Castellanos. This team instills great confidence -- they know how to win. They are built in Buck's image.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I own up on here when I'm wrong or thought one way and turns out to work another. On this call, I was in total agreement with Buck. I thought it was the smart move to make. Britton either strikes out or inducing a ground out nearly 90% of the time. Give a ground out to our current infield and you get a DP.

I would have been ok if he didn't IBB, but I felt as though it was the better move with Britton pitching. Hunter on the mound.. no just pitch for the strike out or something.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

People that are highly paid can still make poor decisions. And those decisions can still sometimes pan out. Look at Ned Yost.

With what the Tigers were sending up there I dispute it was a poor decision. I ordinarily don't like it, but I did today.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Bottom of the 9th, runner on 2nd base with one out and the Tigers down by one run. The Book says you never put the winning run on base, but Buck did. Are there situations when it makes sense?

I was amazed when I went back and looked at the game thread and saw some of the comments immediately following the decision. I had made a comment that it was a gutsy call and then quoted SteveA who had made the comment I did in the first paragraph here.

Many comments that followed in the GT still held that it was a bad decision even after it was successful. I would argue that many of you have never managed a LL game let alone one at the ML level.

What many critics fail to realize is that there are times when you throw out convention because you have information. Buck knows that the Tiger bench was thin and that we were at the bottom of the order in a lineup where we had already seen their most dangerous hitters.

Yes, you never put on the winning run, but if you aren't taking into consideration that Andrew Romine or Hernan Perez are more likely to hit into a DP with a sinker ball pitcher then your place as an armchair tactician is safe.

That's why Buck gets paid to make these decisions.

Yeah, But you actually said something. I just quoted Buck ;)

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.


  • Posts

    • Jeremy Lee is pitching in high-A for the Twins, he's an alum of that school. I'm not sure how many I'd expect from a town with a population of 17,000 people.
    • Yeah I mean, the pitching matchups are about as bad as they could get by random chance. It is what it is. I'm not expecting much from this series. If we lose the series, it won't say a ton about either the Orioles or the Yankees.  BUT - if we win the series, it will be huge. And the Yankees' claim at best in the AL will look highly suspect. 
    • Why 2025+ is important in any trade discussions ... just with regards to position players:  There is a chance the Orioles will have two openings in the outfield beginning next season.  Any or all of Santander, Mullins, and Hays could be gone after the season.  If that happened, it would leave Cowser as the only high-probability starter.  Odds are Cowser would be our CF, but regardless, we'd need to fill those two other spots.  Replacement candidates for COF's, IMHO, are Kjerstad, Norby, and Stowers.  In that group it would seem that only Stowers can play solid defensively in the outfield.  FWIW I don't believe Beavers or Fabian or Cook would be strongly considered to start, nor do I expect Elias to ask Holliday to get reps in CF or Mayo in RF (even though both have merit).  Ryan O'Hearn can play a decent-at-best RF but should not be counted on to start there.   So, if we deal away any of Kjerstad, Norby or Stowers, we'd weaken our options beyond this season.  Again, this assumes we would not attempt to resign/extend Santander (big assumption) or bring back Mullins and Hays with the intention of them starting. As well, beginning next season we may find ourselves in an interesting situation within the infield.  With Mountcastle at 1B, Gunnar at SS and Westburg at either 3B or 2B, there would only be room for either Holliday or Mayo to start regularly.  One possible solution is trading Mountcastle this off-season.  That would allow Mayo to take over at 1B, assuming the O's would be comfortable with his defense at 1B.  Another less likely way to resolve the matter is having Mayo getting a crash course this winter in playing RF OR having Holliday do the same in CF.  Again, not anticipating either. Naturally, there is always the possibility of trading for an outfielder or signing one.   My point is that there is much to consider in weighing this season versus future seasons.  Watching it all unfold fascinating.  
    • IMO the Padres are the team who can least afford to give away any more future assets they are running a bit thin. And some of their higher priced players are starting to age. They say the definition of insanity is doing the same things over and over while continuously getting the same (undesirable) results. If Elias values Crochet the way that you appear to, then maybe he is worth strongly considering acquiring? I can't see them moving Holliday. But again there are scenarios in which one of Mayo/Basallo are expendable long term (even if one or both turn into all-star level players).
    • Like I said, I didn't know he was sick, I don't pay attention to the Padres at all and it's never been front page of any site that I frequent. If the prognosis is years that paints a different picture.
    • I would wait and see who is left standing out of HOU, TEX, CIN, and PIT. Bednar might be my top target if he keeps pitching well or the 15 K/9 guy from CIN. 
  • Popular Contributors

  • Popular Now

×
×
  • Create New...