Is Nick Markakis still an everyday player?

[AlbionHero]

http://camdendepot.blogspot.com/2014/11/is-nick-markakis-everyday-player.html

Keith Law obviously doesn't think so.

PA (DC)

4/$40M too much for Markakis? Could the O's do better by flipping Gonzalez or Norris + a prospect?

Klaw (1:23 PM)

Way too much. Not even clear he's a regular at this point. And I was generally a believer in his talent when he was younger.

[Can_of_corn]

KLaw doesn't like him?

Well that does it!

Let's sign him to a six year deal just to shut Mr Law up!

I think it is a bit of an exaggeration to question if Nick is still an everyday player.

[Frobby]

Keith Law can be absurd at times. Markakis was worth 2.1 rWAR, 2.5 fWAR last year. "Not even clear he's a regular?" That's a joke. We can debate what he'll be three years from now, but right now he is obviously a regular. Keith Law: often wrong, but never in doubt.

[24fps]

Don't we already have a bash Markakis thread?

[Can_of_corn]

Don't we already have a bash Markakis thread?

I am sure the mods will merge it.

[Guest]

Law is a smart man.

[21xxxv]

Law is a smart man.

Nick is a loyal and long tenured Oriole. With that said, he shouldn't be paid like he is 27. His injury history and power numbers would suggest that signing him to a four year deal at the projected dollars mention would be counter productive for a .280 hitter that hits 15 HR's and drives in 60

[malkusm]

Nick is a loyal and long tenured Oriole.

If the Orioles are going to compete every year with the Yankees and Red Sox, the value of this statement must be exactly zero.

[Reboulet'sStache]

Keith Law can be absurd at times. Markakis was worth 2.1 rWAR, 2.5 fWAR last year. "Not even clear he's a regular?" That's a joke. We can debate what he'll be three years from now, but right now he is obviously a regular. Keith Law: often wrong, but never in doubt.

A 2.0 rWAR is the baseline for being a regular. Combine that with his 2013 season, and his age, and it's not crazy to say it's "not clear."

[Frobby]

If the Orioles are going to compete every year with the Yankees and Red Sox, the value of this statement must be exactly zero.

I disagree strongly with this statement. Loyalty and tenure with an organization are a factor in every business I know of. I'm not saying they have overriding value, but they are a consideration. if you want a cohesive team, you cannot treat human beings as though they are nothing but chattel.

[AlbionHero]

I disagree strongly with this statement. Loyalty and tenure with an organization are a factor in every business I know of. I'm not saying they have overriding value, but they are a consideration. if you want a cohesive team, you cannot treat human beings as though they are nothing but chattel.

The Rays had a lot of success with low payroll over the years by treating players as commodities that could be traded when they got too expensive.

I feel its best to take the human element out of building a team instead of getting too attached.

[mcgraw238]

I really like Nick, but I find the idea of signing Nick to a 4/48 equally as absurd as Law's comment.

[21xxxv]

Law is a smart man.

Nick is a loyal and long tenured Oriole. With that said, he shouldn't be paid like he is 27. His injury history and power numbers would suggest that signing him to a four year deal at the projected dollars mention would be counter productive for a .280 hitter that hits 15 HR's and drives in 60

[Frobby]

A 2.0 rWAR is the baseline for being a regular. Combine that with his 2013 season' date=' and his age, and it's not crazy to say it's "not clear."[/quote']

Oh, it's crazy, all right. I guess 31 is the new 40 in your eyes, but not in mine. No matter where Nick plays next year, he will be a regular. I'm as sure of that as I am that the sun will rise in the East.

[Scrat1]

Nick is a loyal and long tenured Oriole. With that said, he shouldn't be paid like he is 27. His injury history and power numbers would suggest that signing him to a four year deal at the projected dollars mention would be counter productive for a .280 hitter that hits 15 HR's and drives in 60

I am absolutely against signing Nick at the figures that are being tossed around (even 3/30 is too much, in my opinion), but this is ridiculous. Other than getting hit in the hand by Sabathia, Markakis has missed very little time.

I also disagree with Law. Markakis is clearly still an everyday player, he's just a very average one. I don't think anyone here (well, except maybe Birdland) wouldn't want Markakis back if the price were right. Unfortunately, the price is not.