Schmuck throws in the towel on D-Cab...

[RShack]

Another sportswriter having a fit because he doesn't like how the player talked to the sportswriters. When Kranitz bails on him, then I'll worry about how it's going in ST...

[Jik]

I think the bigger deal here is Loewen is apparently sore and Moore is having setbacks in his recovery. Scott sounds like he'll play soon though.

[Ruzious]

Another sportswriter having a fit because he doesn't like how the player talked to the sportswriters. When Kranitz bails on him, then I'll worry about how it's going in ST...

You're right. The article has more to do with sports writers than with the player. Schmuck is also upset because Cabrera hasn't lived up to his fantasy - the next Randy Johnson. So, if he's not going to be the HOF quality pitcher he hoped for, Cabrera has to be a loser - when it was Schmuck who simply had very unrealistic expectations.

Luckily, I have very low expectations when reading a Schmuck article.

[BaltimoreTerp]

I'll say this: the Dick Bosman quote is truly fitting...

"That's the kind of pitcher that can get a coach fired."

[HarryReasonable]

I'm not QUITE there yet, but it is understandable that someone else could be.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/baseball/bal-schmuck0312,0,3306750.column

No need to jump out of windows yet - he still may be a Randy Johnson in the rough. It still remains to be seen, but Randy Johnson was hooribly wild in his early years, even more so than Daniel Cabrera.

From 1989 to 1992, Johnson walked an average of 5.83 batters per 9 innings. From 2004 to 2007, Cabrera has walked an average of 5.3 per 9 innings. Here is how their years compare:

Johnson - 1989 - 5.4 walks per 9 innings

1990 - 4.9

1991 - 6.8

1992 - 6.2

Cabrera - 2004 - 5.4 walks per 9 innings

2005 - 4.9

2006 - 6.3

2007 - 4.8

As for wins, over the 4-year periods, Johnson had 46 wins and Cabrera had 40. I say the jury is still out. Randy Johnson broke out in 1993, so I think we still have a year to let this play out. The kid has too many natural abilities to give up just yet.

[byrdz]

No need to jump out of windows yet - he still may be a Randy Johnson in the rough. It still remains to be seen, but Randy Johnson was hooribly wild in his early years, even more so than Daniel Cabrera.

From 1989 to 1992, Johnson walked an average of 5.83 batters per 9 innings. From 2004 to 2007, Cabrera has walked an average of 5.3 per 9 innings. Here is how their years compare:

Johnson - 1989 - 5.4 walks per 9 innings

1990 - 4.9

1991 - 6.8

1992 - 6.2

Cabrera - 2004 - 5.4 walks per 9 innings

2005 - 4.9

2006 - 6.3

2007 - 4.8

As for wins, over the 4-year periods, Johnson had 46 wins and Cabrera had 40. I say the jury is still out. Randy Johnson broke out in 1993, so I think we still have a year to let this play out. The kid has too many natural abilities to give up just yet.

I agree and this was brought up last season as well, Johnson issued 144 walks at age 28 and well over 100 the few seasons before that, Daniel is 26. But this forum doesn't have any room for thought out, researched and statistically backed mumbo-jumbo such as this, just rampant overreaction.

[neveradoubt]

Schmuck's article is off base. Cabrera is working on his changeup, something the Orioles have wanted him to do. I'd rather see him walk tons of people this spring if he can develop enough confidence in the pitch to throw it for strikes in the regular season.

Instead of working on another pitch he should work on getting ONE pitch for a strike. Seems like he has been trying to do that for quite a few years

[OK_Os_Fan]

How do you throw in the towel on a guy that gives you 200 innings a year a chance to compete in many of the games he starts and cost less that 10 million a year ????

Is he going to be an ACE... I think that is a definite NO.. Is he valuable to the O's and/or most teams Heck yeah....

The guy catches lightening in a bottle now and again. Exciting to watch, eats up innings and is inexpensive ....

No need to throw in the towel.

The Orioles have known for the last 2 1/2 to 3 years what they get with Daniel... They are satisfied

[NewMarketSean]

If Loewen's injury problems turn into something bigger, we're going to need DCab a lot this year, whether he's good or not.

[hatepaste]

I have consistently said the same thing ever since signing up with this board: DCAB NEEDS TO BE TRADED TO A LOW PRESSURE NATIONAL LEAGUE team.

National League Team? Have you ever seen D-Cab with a bat in his hand?

[Frobby]

No need to jump out of windows yet - he still may be a Randy Johnson in the rough. It still remains to be seen, but Randy Johnson was hooribly wild in his early years, even more so than Daniel Cabrera.

From 1989 to 1992, Johnson walked an average of 5.83 batters per 9 innings. From 2004 to 2007, Cabrera has walked an average of 5.3 per 9 innings. Here is how their years compare:

Johnson - 1989 - 5.4 walks per 9 innings

1990 - 4.9

1991 - 6.8

1992 - 6.2

Cabrera - 2004 - 5.4 walks per 9 innings

2005 - 4.9

2006 - 6.3

2007 - 4.8

As for wins, over the 4-year periods, Johnson had 46 wins and Cabrera had 40. I say the jury is still out. Randy Johnson broke out in 1993, so I think we still have a year to let this play out. The kid has too many natural abilities to give up just yet.

Do I have to do this AGAIN? How many times do I have to debunk this BS?

1989: 160 IP, 82 ERA+

1990: 219 IP, 103 ERA+

1991: 201 IP, 108 ERA+

1992: 210 IP, 105 ERA+

From 1990-92 Randy Johnson was throwing 200+ innings a year and was above average every year.

2004: 148 IP, 92 ERA+

2005: 161 IP, 96 ERA+

2006: 148 IP, 96 ERA+

2007: 204 IP, 83 ERA+

DCab failed to throw enough innings to qualify in all but one season, and he has never had a league average ERA.

They are both tall. Both had control issues. The similarity ends there. DCab will never be Randy Johnson and this insanity must stop.

[LookitsPuck]

I'm finished with Cabrera.

[byrdz]

I'm finished with Cabrera.

So, you're not watching the games he pitches?

[LookitsPuck]

Didn't mean that. I just mean that I don't think he'll ever be anything than an inning eater 5th starter.

[hatepaste]

Didn't mean that. I just mean that I don't think he'll ever be anything than an inning eater 5th starter.

Well taht's puts him at number 1 or 2 on this staff.