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O's Must Resign Davis

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I have had mixed feelings about resigning Davis because of all of his strikeouts. But as a fan who attends games with other fans, I can hear other fans discuss their feelings and opinions. What I've heard, especially in September is that the Orioles will be suffering a huge loss in revenue if O's management doesn't resign Davis. They don't believe that DD has the wherewithal to replace Davis if he is allowed to walk. This is because these fans, already traumatized over 14 straight losing seasons, will stop trusting O's management, and they will stop buying tickets and attending O's games.

Myself, I remember back in 1999 when I made my own decision to give up my 13-game season plan because of management moves that made the club worse, not better. Maybe I'm just a stupid fan who made a stupid, selfish move because I do like to have team managements that attempt to build winning teams. But my own move was joined by others. I became a rabid Ravens fan because, even with mistakes, Ravens management has striven to build winning teams. The results: 2 Super Bowl championships since 2000. I watched over what the Orioles were doing and continued to refuse to buy tickets for a continually losing team. I am a fan, but I'm not a masochist.

I came out of "Oriole Fan Exile" in 2013 when I noticed that the Orioles were winning again. It seemed to me that they were winning in spite of their FO, but on the other had, it seemed that the FO had changed their ways and realized that winning teams produce revenue. So I started buying tickets and going to games. I bought a 29 game season plan for 2015 and I plan to renew my plan for 2016. But if O's management returns to methods similar to what produced 14 straight losing seasons, and thus they begin on the road to more losing seasons -- I'm not coming back any longer until management changes. And I doubt that I'll be alone in this.

To make a long, long story short: fan attendance produces revenue. And fans won't attend if they believe that they are being "taken" by a management that believes in their stupidity i.e. they will come regardless of whether the team wins or not. That is not true, as history has shown.

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Like everyone else, I'd really like to see CD back with the club next season too. Hoping that he'll consider a hometown discount in all fairness - but generally players don't hire an agent like Boras without reason. I guess time will tell - one forum member did indicate that he had some unfinished business to do by hitting the warehouse, for that comment I thoroughly agree!!!

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Im telling you now. Boras wants 30 million a year for 5-7 years.I believe he will point to Kershaw, Scherzer,Trout and a few others.He'll claim that Davis impacts more games with a bat and glove like Trout and is a more frequent contributor than a pitcher.

Someone MIGHT pay that number, but it won't be us. Our only chance(doubtful) is that Davis himself overrules Boras and "settles"(what a joke that is) for 23-24 million a year in a 3-4 year deal(I also believe that is highly unlikely.Im pretty sure we've seen the last of Davis and its a damned shame but a reality in baseball.

Chris already said it is out of his hands.

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I have had mixed feelings about resigning Davis because of all of his strikeouts. But as a fan who attends games with other fans, I can hear other fans discuss their feelings and opinions. What I've heard, especially in September is that the Orioles will be suffering a huge loss in revenue if O's management doesn't resign Davis. They don't believe that DD has the wherewithal to replace Davis if he is allowed to walk. This is because these fans, already traumatized over 14 straight losing seasons, will stop trusting O's management, and they will stop buying tickets and attending O's games.

Myself, I remember back in 1999 when I made my own decision to give up my 13-game season plan because of management moves that made the club worse, not better. Maybe I'm just a stupid fan who made a stupid, selfish move because I do like to have team managements that attempt to build winning teams. But my own move was joined by others. I became a rabid Ravens fan because, even with mistakes, Ravens management has striven to build winning teams. The results: 2 Super Bowl championships since 2000. I watched over what the Orioles were doing and continued to refuse to buy tickets for a continually losing team. I am a fan, but I'm not a masochist.

I came out of "Oriole Fan Exile" in 2013 when I noticed that the Orioles were winning again. It seemed to me that they were winning in spite of their FO, but on the other had, it seemed that the FO had changed their ways and realized that winning teams produce revenue. So I started buying tickets and going to games. I bought a 29 game season plan for 2015 and I plan to renew my plan for 2016. But if O's management returns to methods similar to what produced 14 straight losing seasons, and thus they begin on the road to more losing seasons -- I'm not coming back any longer until management changes. And I doubt that I'll be alone in this.

To make a long, long story short: fan attendance produces revenue. And fans won't attend if they believe that they are being "taken" by a management that believes in their stupidity i.e. they will come regardless of whether the team wins or not. That is not true, as history has shown.

My words exactly. If they don't sign him, I won't show up either. Dad gave up around 2002 after Cal left, and then got behind them again in 2012, and now (his words exactly) "Oh great, here we go again." Hope that doesn't happen

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My words exactly. If they don't sign him, I won't show up either. Dad gave up around 2002 after Cal left, and then got behind them again in 2012, and now (his words exactly) "Oh great, here we go again." Hope that doesn't happen

I think there are many of you, perhaps as many as the 300 that were behind the dugout during Chris' interview imploring him to return, that may turn their back on the Orioles completely when they do not offer David the 180 million he may sign for. There are no possibility of extension talks at this point.

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Im telling you now. Boras wants 30 million a year for 5-7 years.I believe he will point to Kershaw, Scherzer,Trout and a few others.He'll claim that Davis impacts more games with a bat and glove like Trout and is a more frequent contributor than a pitcher.

Someone MIGHT pay that number, but it won't be us. Our only chance(doubtful) is that Davis himself overrules Boras and "settles"(what a joke that is) for 23-24 million a year in a 3-4 year deal(I also believe that is highly unlikely.Im pretty sure we've seen the last of Davis and its a damned shame but a reality in baseball.

I don't see Davis getting 30, but I don't see Davis settling for 3-4 years.

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Of course it is almost entirely in his hands.

I am sure there is a number that the O's would be willing to pay.

Yep, something like 5/90 M. Who would expect him to ignore a market value of 6/150 or more, to take 5/90M out of some moronic fans' idea of loyalty.
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