Trade Britton

[backwardsk]

I think they keep their powder dry for the super class coming up.

This year I think they get under the cap and reset the penalties.

They'll just get more powder.

What is the threshold that they have to get under, BTW?

[Can_of_corn]

They'll just get more powder.

What is the threshold that they have to get under, BTW?

Sons are not the father.

I think the magic number is still 189 million.

According to Cots they currently have $127.650M in 2017 obligations.

[MDtransplant757]

Sons are not the father.

I think the magic number is still 189 million.

According to Cots they currently have $127.650M in 2017 obligations.

If the sons were the father, the Yankees would have already traded for Harper at this point.

[Can_of_corn]

If the sons were the father, the Yankees would have already traded for Harper at this point.

I don't think he's available.

Mr Lerner seems interested in winning.

[MDtransplant757]

I don't think he's available.

Mr Lerner seems interested in winning.

Wonder how much money Boras and Harper want come 2018 and if good ol Teddy will keep him.

[Il BuonO]

Wonder how much money Boras and Harper want come 2018 and if good ol Teddy will keep him.

He needs a bounce back year for $500k.

[25 Nuggets]

Sons are not the father.

I think the magic number is still 189 million.

According to Cots they currently have $127.650M in 2017 obligations.

Add $20 mil to that from CC Sabathia's vesting option.

Estimated arbitration costs right now are $32.3 mil.

That would bring it to $179.95 mil.

[Can_of_corn]

Add $20 mil to that from CC Sabathia's vesting option.

Estimated arbitration costs right now are $32.3 mil.

That would bring it to $179.95 mil.

So they have wiggle room but it is likely they won't add anything significant.

[Tryptamine]

Best case for us is that Cubs, Rangers and Dodgers lose out on Chapman and Jansen. I'm not worried about Melancon because he's not in the same category as Britton, Miller, Chapman, Jansen. Those three teams have good farm systems and mlb ready talent to trade for. Dream scenario for us if we wanted to trade Britton would be:

Chapman-NYY

Jansen-DET, WASH

Then we could get the Cubs, Dodgers and maybe the Rangers, in a bidding war.

I can't remember where I read it, but I don't think the Cubs have much, if any, interest in bringing back Chapman. I'm not sure what their plans are for closer, it may be CJ Edwards. With that said, I doubt they could afford Britton anymore anyways. Baez and Schwarber aren't going anywhere and Eloy is a special talent that I can't fathom getting moved, his ceiling is massive. That leaves Soler, Ian Happ, Dylan Cease, etc and to be honest they're almost definitely going to have to use those few assets on a starter unless they've decided that Montgomery is going to be a full time starter.

[sportsfan8703]

The only problem there is, I'm not interested in a Chapman return to New York.

Yeah that didn't even look good when I typed it but I had to post best reasonable scenario for a Britton trade. Let's see if the Yankees are different, if this were a few years ago you could almost book that Chapman was going to get 6/90 from them. Funny thing, he'd probably be worth it.

Best case scenario for us is that the Cubs don't win the WS and then try and go for the gusto in the off season. I doubt they would settle for Melancon if they didn't keep Chapman.

[CheeryO]

The only problem there is, I'm not interested in a Chapman return to New York.

Trading Britton would make a lot more sense if the O's could also sign Chapman. But what are the odds of that happening?

[CheeryO]

I'm only for trading Britton unless we get blown away by a 3 player MLB ready package. Then take the saved money and lock up Manny and Schoop. That's not rebuilding. That's extending our "window". Britton's name only pops up because his value is at an unprecedented high and we can extend our window from the next 2-3 years to the next 5-6 in one huge move.

I'd make Oday the closer. I'd use Givens and Brach in the high leverage situations in the 6th-8th innings. We found are Lefty in Hart. I'd bring back Hunter to provide stability in the 6th/7th. Plus I love our bullpen prospects.

2017

Oliver Drake MLB

Jason Garcia AAA

Mike Wright AAA

Tanner Scott AA

Jesus Liranzo AA

Garret Cleavinger AA

Ryan Mesisenger AA

We're locked into Oday. So give him clean 9th innings and not run up Givens or Brach's arb numbers by closing. Then use these up and coming guys to get to the big three.

I don't see the point in locking up Schoop. He's such a low OBP player. I'd rather trade him because he has value, maybe trade AJ too. Look at a team that wins year to year like the Giants. They don't have real star hitters, but they don't strike out much either. They get on base. The Giants problem this year was their bullpen. The O's have the bullpen -- now they need to get the higher OBP players. I would start with looking for possible trades/replacements for Schoop and Jones, maybe Jones more so because he's getting older.

[VeveJones007]

I don't see the point in locking up Schoop. He's such a low OBP player. I'd rather trade him because he has value, maybe trade AJ too. Look at a team that wins year to year like the Giants. They don't have real star hitters, but they don't strike out much either. They get on base. The Giants problem this year was their bullpen. The O's have the bullpen -- now they need to get the higher OBP players. I would start with looking for possible trades/replacements for Schoop and Jones, maybe Jones more so because he's getting older.

The Giants scored the 4th fewest runs in baseball during the 2nd half...

[CheeryO]

The Giants scored the 4th fewest runs in baseball during the 2nd half...

Probably because Pence, Duffy and Blanco all went on the DL as well as they and maybe others playing hurt. But SF had the second fewest strikeouts for the whole season. And they made it further into the playoffs than the O's. The point stands. People around here complain about the O's "approach" at the plate. It's not the approach as much as who these hitters are.

[Can_of_corn]

Probably because Pence, Duffy and Blanco all went on the DL as well as they and maybe others playing hurt. But SF had the second fewest strikeouts for the whole season. And they made it further into the playoffs than the O's. The point stands. People around here complain about the O's "approach" at the plate. It's not the approach as much as who these hitters are.

Cubs have more strike outs than the O's.