Orioles Deal Gausman/O'Day to Braves - Schoop to Brewers

[99ct]

1 minute ago, GoldGlove21 said:

They had like 9 players in the top #100 and we couldn't get one BECAUSE...... we offloaded O'Day' money.

Eh, you don't know what they would have offered without O'Day 

[crissfan172]

7 minutes ago, Reboulet'sStache said:

It's a horrible thing.  What do we need freed up payroll for next year???  To go out and buy that free agent that is going to allow us to make that run?

If EVERY team in baseball said, "Hey Orioles, I'm going to send you our bad contracts for the next two to three years.  But along with it, I'm going to give you top prospects," then we should take that deal.  Because we won't, and SHOULDN'T, be investing that money in anything intended to compete right away.  That's not what you do during rebuilds.  You invest the money in ways that allow for a prospect return. 

Too many people think of baseball payroll in terms of a salary cap. Money not spent the next two years isn't a missed opportunity; it's money that can be used in the future. 

[Natty]

So when is jump off the warehouse night for Orioles fans?

[LookitsPuck]

I'd have rather held on to Gausman and tried trading him in the offseason and/or trade deadline next year. 

Schoop I understand...but Gausman? Why the rush? Not to get anybody in the Braves Top 10....or a single Top 100 prospect for Gausman? 

[Why Not?]

1 minute ago, GoldGlove21 said:

They had like 9 players in the top #100 and we couldn't get one BECAUSE...... we offloaded O'Day' money.

Jumping to conclusions there.

[atomic]

1 minute ago, Frobby said:

It’s not like O’Day will have no value next year.  

He has been Mediocre at best the last 3 years.  He might get a 2 million dollar contract if he were lucky if he were a free agent. 

[Ruzious]

12 minutes ago, dorfmac said:

I don't like Encarnacion at all. He's still very young, but 100K's and 13BBs is exactly the last type of ratio we need.

He's a project because of that, but he is just 20 and oozes power potential.  A low floor as well as a high ceiling.    

[esmd]

Just now, Thato'sfan said:

Marlins were making a push for VVM. Yankees got over 3 million this week. Perhaps the Orioles view VVM as the center piece for the future of the organization. Wanted to guarantee his signing.

This.  Plus maybe now they get the top #25 pitcher that's still unsigned.

[Camden_yardbird]

4 minutes ago, GoldGlove21 said:

What good is all that international money if you do not get VVM?

This.  VVM is a must now.  All of the other guys are signed.

[Diehard_O's_Fan]

How is Villar's defense? Is he really that bad of a player?

[Reboulet'sStache]

The Braves basically paid us to keep prospects.  When we are the team rebuilding and in need of prospects.  

This actually makes me envy the Cleveland Browns.  They took Osweiller's salary on for a year because they had no intention of investing the money to compete right away.  So they invested it in something that allowed them to get back a 2nd Round pick.   They brought prospects for their rebuild.  

We're in a rebuild and shedding prospects.  You can't explain it. 

[clapdiddy]

Just now, 99ct said:

Eh, you don't know what they would have offered without O'Day 

So you keep Gausman, then.   Agreed with most takes on here.   Unimpressed with the Gausman deal.  It only makes sense if we absolutely needed the slot money for VVM.  

[atomic]

Just now, crissfan172 said:

Too many people think of baseball payroll in terms of a salary cap. Money not spent the next two years isn't a missed opportunity; it's money that can be used in the future. 

For a vacation home for the owners. 

[El Gordo]

9 minutes ago, maybenxtyr said:

The Brewers trade seems better than the Braves deal. 

2.5 M International bonus?

[brooksfrankjim]

I look at Gausman this way.  We save $12-13m, we pick up 4 lottery tickets, and we get some good money to spend internationally.  Gausman may become a stud there, but he wasn’t going to here.  

Really looking forward to the international signings.